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« on: Monday 18 August 08 13:51 BST (UK) »
Being new to this site and having most of my family history handed to me in book form I am investigating the gaps left by my G. Grandfather

My first mistake was thinking due to my unusual surname my task would be easy ::)
What I really want to know is
where to look for any information on a relative who was lost at sea in the late 1840s along with his wife and eldest son
I have only very sketchy details but have found the names of 2 ships he was master of
Can anyone point me in the right direction
Dumble is the surname I'm researching going back to John Dumble Dob 1770/75 from Berwick on Tweed
heres hoping
Jan

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« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 August 08 14:35 BST (UK) »
There's an entry in the Times in 1843
The Times, Thursday, Jul 13, 1843; pg. 8; Issue 18347; col
summarised: A boat from the coast-guard at Childock went to Charmouth carrying an officer, who, as he was not returning, gave the men permission to take the boat back along with some of their wives and children, who had been attending a fair. On the return, however, the boat capsized in rough water, and seven of the nine persons aboard perished.
Those who perished were: Mann (a boatman) Mrs Turner and child, Mary Hodder, and three children of a boatman named Dumble. Mrs Dumble was saved by a boatman named Phillips - when he reached her, she was holding the body of one of her children in her arms. The bodies of Mann and the eldest Dumble child were not recovered.

This family may be John Dumble, coast guard, aged 25, wife Mary, and children Mary, Elizabeth, John, and William in 1841. They are living in Dorset in 1841 but the parents were not born there.

There is also an 1842 reference to a Thomas Dumble, captain of the Bernard (witness in a court case).

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Re: master mariners/ships
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 August 08 15:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks I have come across both these items before I'm fairly certain the Dumbles in the  coastguard incident are not my Dumbles
My Dumbles involved were Thomas Dob 1800? his wife Mary and eldest son possibly John I am fairly certain Capt Thomas Dumble was a merchant mariner and have evidence of him sailing into the Port of Quebec in the 1820s
The story goes that the ship they were on was boarded by pirates at some point
but what is sad is it was Capt.  Thomas's last voyage and his sons maiden voyage on his path to master mariner status
The address I have for this family was Totton St London
They had a younger son Murdock Mackenzie Dumble who was not on this voyage enabling the continuation of my family
Very hopefull  someone can help
Jan

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 August 08 16:20 BST (UK) »
Was the Thomas Dumble mentioned in 1842 who was on the Bernard yours, then?  I also found this:

The Times, Friday, Dec 22, 1843; pg. 7; Issue 18486; col F
(Ship News)
Greenock, Dec 19 - the Bernard, of London, from Quebec to Chatham, was totally wrecked on the 25th ult. near Miloath point - the master, his wife, his son, and twelve of the crew drowned.
(Ship News)
The Times, Wednesday, Jan 03, 1844; pg. 7; Issue 18496; col C
Quebec, Dec 6 - The Bernard is supposed to be on shore in the river, as her boat has been washed ashore at Father Point.

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 August 08 17:59 BST (UK) »
This sounds very possible how do I find the article please
Jan