Harveys of Staffordshire

[dizzliz]

Hi there looking for any other info on the following please James Harvey born 1820
Elizabeth Harvey born 1821
James Harvey born 1840
Jane Harvey born 1848
Thomas Harvey born 1853
Richard Harvey born 1855
Charles Harvey born 1857
John Harvey born 1858
this is from 1871 census but cant find out anymore than this if any one can find out anything it would be appreciated thank you

[karenlee]

Hi dizzliz

This might be them :-

1861 Census England Staffordshire Harborne
RG9/2126/104/19
Hill Street

HARVEY
Elizabeth Head Wid 78 Housekeeper Famlouth Somerset
Elizabeth Son's Wife Marr 41 Northumberland Newcastle
William Son Unmarr 14 Boiler Maker Staffordshire Smethwick
Joseph Son Unmarr 11 Rivet Maker Stafforshire Smethwick
Thomas Son Unmarr 9 Scholar Staffordshire Smethwick
Richard Son Unmarr 7 Scholar  Staffordshire Smethwick
Charles Son Unmarr 5 Scholar Staffordshire Smethwick
John Son Unmarr 3 Scholar Staffordshire Smethwick

Cheers
Karenlee

[karenlee]

And again

1851 Census England Staffordshire Harborne
HO107/2050/304/11
New Street

HARVEY
James Head Marr 31 Engineer Middlesex Poplar
Elizabeth Wife Marr 30 Glass Smoother Northumberland Newcastle
Elizabeth Mother Wid 67 Cornwall
James Son Unmarr 11 Glass Grinder Middlesex Poplar
Mary Ann Dau Unmarr 8 Scholar Middlesex Poplar
William Son Unmarr 5 Scholar Staffordshire Smethwick
Jane Dau Unmarr 3 Scholar Staffordshire Smethwick
Joseph Son Unmarr 1 Staffordshire Smethwick

Karenlee

[karenlee]

This is the most likely entry for 1841 that I could find :-

1841 Census England Middlesex St Anne Limehouse Limehouse
HO107/701/13/19
Gill Street

HARVEY
Elizabeth 20 Glass Smoother No
James 20 Blacksmith Yes
James 2 Yes
Elizabeth 2mths Yes

Karenlee

[dizzliz]

Hi Karlene we know that in 1871 James was age 52, Elizabeth age 50, James age 31, Jane age 23, Thomas age 18, Richard age 16, Charles age 14, John age 13, we also know that James born 1820 was an engineer, and that  Thomas, Richard, Chalres and John were Puddlers

[dizzliz]

from 1871 on wards we can find out nothing dont know if any of them married the only other info we know is that John born staffordshire got married in new zealand in 1888 i have done every shipping list i can find to no avail to know when how many or what boat he came on

[karenlee]

Hi Karlene we know that in 1871 James was age 52, Elizabeth age 50, James age 31, Jane age 23, Thomas age 18, Richard age 16, Charles age 14, John age 13, we also know that James born 1820 was an engineer, and that  Thomas, Richard, Chalres and John were Puddlers

Well that would make the family in 1861 a real possibility  then, given the ages of the children... Thomas is 9, Richard is 7, Charles is 5, and John is 3.

Same for the 1851 with a Jane aged 3 ( born about 1848 ) and James aged 11 ( born about 1841 ).

John may well have gone to Australia first then onto NZ.  Lots of people did that.... I have several in my tree.  Makes it difficult to trace the shipping if they did.  Some records remain for Trans Tasman shipping lists from Melbourne, Sydney and Tasmania so you might like to look there as well.

Cheers
Karenlee

[Cas (stallc)]

Here is 1881 for John  http://www.rootschat.com/links/043k/

RG11 Piece 2878 Folio 142 Page 32
74 Wood Street, Dudley, Worcestershire

Elizabeth Harvey 60 head, wid, Northumberland Newcastle
John Harvey 23, son, unmar, fitter, Smethwick, Staffordshire

Cas

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They had one lodger and one visitor living with them at this tim
James Mason 20  
William Tavenor 13  

Elizabeth Death was registered in 1889 in Stone.