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help please - OWEN
« on: Sunday 17 August 08 21:30 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find any info on a William Owen..I dont know when he was born, where he was born or if he is still alive
 All I know is he was married, and had one son in the 1940's and he lived at Havershill Road, Balham, London during the war, and that its possible William Owen worked as an Empoyment Clerk but again i dont know where or if that bit is true.
 I have tried several searches and ended up know-where(including death)
 can anyone help?
Whyte/White - Inverness-shire
Mackenzie - Black Isle/ Inverness
Morrison - Sutherland
MacIntosh/McKintosh - Sutherland
MacAulay - Inverness-shire
Finlayson - Inverness-shire
Urqurhart - Inverness-shire
Hurley - London
Scott - Roxburghshire
Keil - Austria
Carder - Plymouth
Stillitano - isle of Capri
Pipe - Dorset
Acutt - London

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Re: help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 August 08 22:04 BST (UK) »
Well, if you know his wife's name, the obvious thing to do would be to look for his marriage first. (If you don't know it, you'll need the son's birth certificate).

Without that, I don't know that you can do much with what you have, as the name is fairly common. Be aware that freebmd (and the name search on Ancestry, which I think is taken from the freebmd index) does not really cover the 1930s/40s, so you would need to search the original images to find the birth/marriage references.

Incidentally the name of the road is probably Haverhill without the s, unless it's changed since WWII. It's just north of Tooting Bec Common.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 August 08 10:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks jorose
 Unfortunatly I have no other info, but I  will  be asking questions...in hope of some answers(I did find out he was alive in 1949/50).

 I couldnt find any marriages to William Owen in the London area.
Whyte/White - Inverness-shire
Mackenzie - Black Isle/ Inverness
Morrison - Sutherland
MacIntosh/McKintosh - Sutherland
MacAulay - Inverness-shire
Finlayson - Inverness-shire
Urqurhart - Inverness-shire
Hurley - London
Scott - Roxburghshire
Keil - Austria
Carder - Plymouth
Stillitano - isle of Capri
Pipe - Dorset
Acutt - London

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 August 08 11:26 BST (UK) »
Where were you looking, and which years did you check? I am sure there are plenty in the full indexes - if you don't have access to Ancestry, try seeing if your local library has access. Actually it is likely to be the other problem - you'll probably find a few possibilities. If you look for the son first, you should find on the index his mother's maiden name, which will help narrow it down.

The latest marriage I can find for William Owen in London on freebmd was in 1937, but freebmd has very limited coverage in this time period so I'd imagine there are many more hiding in the original indexes.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 12:42 BST (UK) »
 I tried a couple of sites
 findmypast and Familysearch but couldnt find any...I searched 1930 to 1940...I must admit I always find it hard to get into the English records...especially as I am in Scotland.

 Thanks for the help will try again

 
Whyte/White - Inverness-shire
Mackenzie - Black Isle/ Inverness
Morrison - Sutherland
MacIntosh/McKintosh - Sutherland
MacAulay - Inverness-shire
Finlayson - Inverness-shire
Urqurhart - Inverness-shire
Hurley - London
Scott - Roxburghshire
Keil - Austria
Carder - Plymouth
Stillitano - isle of Capri
Pipe - Dorset
Acutt - London

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 15:10 BST (UK) »
Yes, you will not get any marriages in 1930-1940 really unless you find something which gives you the original images. Ancestry, findmypast, familyrelatives all have this function but you generally have to pay for it.

It's worth checking with your local library to see if they have the library edition of Ancestry, since if you're just starting out I don't think it's worth getting a year's subscription.

On Ancestry, for example, they list two different indexes - the 'Partial FreeBMD Indexes' are searchable by name - i.e. you can put in William Owen and get back a bunch of hits, but not everything is in there.  1930-1940 will have very little coverage.

What you want is called the 'Complete BMD Index' on Ancestry.  Then you must select a year:
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8965&path=1940 (this should hopefully show you 1940). Then there are four quarters in the year. For each quarter, there are alphabetical indexes.
So to search properly from 1930 to 1939, say, you have 10 years, 40 quarters, 40 pages to look at. It's probably best to find the birth first and then work backwards from that year.

On findmypast you want to choose 'Browse' for births, marriages, and deaths:
http://www.findmypast.com/Pre84BrowseStartSearch.jsp
 - then choose marriages, the year, the quarter, and then the page you're interested in.  i.e. for 1940, Jan-Mar quarter there's a page that covers OWEN, Lilian E     -     OWENS, Gwenith M.   Any Williams in that quarter will be somewhere on that one page.

Marriage indexes give you the surname only of the other party, so if your William married an Elizabeth Smith, you will see the surname Smith next to his entry. You can then look up the Smiths and see which one has the same reference number.
If you look up the birth index of the child, it should give you the maiden name for the mother.
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Re: help please - OWEN
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 August 16 21:16 BST (UK) »
Hi I have just come onto this site.  I too am looking for William Owen who lived at Haverhill Road, Balham around war time.  He too had a son.  I have been looking for years but with no luck.  The William (Bill) Owen I am looking for information for I think worked as a Employment Clerk I think.  ANY Help would be most appreciated please.

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Re: help please - OWEN
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 August 16 23:14 BST (UK) »
Hello Queeniemum and welcome to Rootschat.

Whytes has not been on Rootschat since Jan 2009,but as long as he hasn't changed his email address should be notified that we have posted here and reply.

Do you know who your William was married to and when he was born?

Haverhill Road appears on the 1939 register (on Find My Past) under Wandsworth.
But we are not allowed to do look ups for others from it. Do you have an actual house number?

Maybe he wasn't there until after Sept 1939?

Regards

Carol
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 August 16 00:02 BST (UK) »
Welcome Queeniemum :)

The electoral registers for 1945-1959 inclusive show a William and Cissie Owen at 8 Haverhill Rd.

In 1953 a John Owen is also there with them.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)