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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #63 on: Monday 09 August 10 00:16 BST (UK) »
I work in glasgow managing a youth centre and the reputation it has is no longer true. The area is regenerated and there are soooo many good peopel there. It is no way by far any worse than so many other areas about Scotland. Did anyone work with Crossroads of Geoff shaff in the 50,s to this present day?

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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #64 on: Tuesday 09 November 10 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone!  ;D
What a bunch of knowledgeable people you are, truly amazing. Hopefully somebody out there can help me.

I'm looking for a particular Janet RITCHIE (there are so many!), b. abt. 1894 in the Gorbals, Glasgow. This lady married a John FINLAY (also alas such a popular name!) from Belfast, sometime betw. 1910 - 1915 because their first child, John (Robert) was b. 29 Jan 1917. He is my husband's dad, still alive & living with us (93), but due to dementia, no memories of the past at all and he has lost contact with family members ages ago. :-\

I've assumed they married in N. Ireland, Co. Down (birth certif. issued) or Belfast, but have spent fruitless weeks and money on look ups but to no avail. So I'm forced to consider marriage elsewhere, possibly in Glasgow, since Janet hails from there. The bit about Janet being a native of the Gorbals comes from another family member. After said Janet produced other children, David, William Robert and Jean, she moved back to Glasgow, John R was sent back to live with his dad in N Ireland. She must have died there, but I can't find a Janet Finlay death records. John's sister was still alive in 1946 +/- because she collected a posthumous medal for her dead brother William Robert who died in WWII (able seaman). John FINLAY (Sr.) is listed as a "general labourer" in birth/marriage certificate of John (Jr.) and was still alive in 1965.

This is what I've found so far based on the 1901 census  for Glasgow, and I would like people's opinion which Janet is the right one, since I'm not sure of the extent of the Gorbals -

Janet 1 - b. 1892 Glasgow, living in 76 Brown St., Blythswood, parents Janet & William Ritchie, Flour Miller.
Janet 2 - b.1893 Glasgow,  living 208 Cumberland St. Hutchesontown, parents Robina & William Ritchie, Clerk.
Janet 3 - b.1897 Glasgow,  living in Roseneath (?), St. Rollox, parents Martha & Robert Ritchie, Boilermaker (locomotive).
Janet 4 - b. 1897 Glasgow, living in 62 Mount St., Kelvin, Mayhill, parents Mary & William Ritchie, Gas engineer (fitter).
Janet 5 - b. 1887 (the oldest at 14), Glasgow, living in 34 Tylefield, Camlachie, parens Ellen & John Ritchie, Cabinet maker. She is working as a laundress maid.
Janet 6 - b. 1887 (also 14) Glasgow, living in 32 Daisy St., Gorbals, parents Alison & Alexander Ritchie, Tailors' cutter. She is working as a "coop gerl".
Janet 7 - b. 1893 Whiteinch, Lanarks., living in 39 Milton St., Patrick burgh, parents Janet & James Ritchie (from Ireland), cancker (?)

So, there you have it, anybody who has heard of a Ritchie woman returning from Ireland a Finlay & married  with several children, please let me know! :o

Incidentally, I found a photograph in the Mitchell virtual library that might shed some light, but probably on the wrong Ritchie: 1958, A. Ritchie, Haulage Contractors, Brown Street, (Gorbals), Glasgow. Prob. descendants of Janet 6, one of her young brothers was Alexander W.

Thanks very, very much for any help / info. ;D
Patricia.

FINLAY from Co. Antrim & Down, RITCHIE from Scotland, BOURNER from Kent / E Sussex & London, COOPER from London. Also WICHTL from Austria & Czech Republic, HOERMANN from Germany & Austria, LOSTAK from Austria, MADAER from Austria.

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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #65 on: Tuesday 09 November 10 22:26 GMT (UK) »
The only address which is in the Gorbals is the Cumberland St one. Daisy St is in Govanhill, if that's any help.
McGowan, Dunlop, Watson, Kerr, Rickelton, McLachlan, Devine, Glasgow

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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 11 November 10 01:50 GMT (UK) »
Its funny that the only people that spoke about the Gorbals as being a bad place did not actually come from there except for one and myself who stayed in Naburn st,and all we had was great memories,and as for for the neds and such they where there i suppose but they did not really bother us as much as they bothered each other.....The best days of my life....... :D


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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #67 on: Friday 12 November 10 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gaucho  ;D , I was hoping that Janets 2 and 6 would be hopeful candidates. 6 is ruled out now as I found her married to a non-Finlay 1913. Any ideas where I could buy/view a map where the Gorbals are more clearly defined?
Your sobriquet Gaucho makes me smile  :D as I grew up in Argentina (my father was in the oil business). I still remember those steaks....
Rgds,
Patricia.
FINLAY from Co. Antrim & Down, RITCHIE from Scotland, BOURNER from Kent / E Sussex & London, COOPER from London. Also WICHTL from Austria & Czech Republic, HOERMANN from Germany & Austria, LOSTAK from Austria, MADAER from Austria.

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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #68 on: Friday 12 November 10 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Old map of Glasgow showing the Gorbals 
http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Early%20Maps.html
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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #69 on: Friday 12 November 10 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patricia

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Sounds like you have had a long search for Janet's roots. Have you seen this death entry on Scotlands People?

Janet Richie/Findlay b. 1886, death after 1960 (would have to be ordered, not available to view on line). What is the source for the birth year you  have of c. 1894?

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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #70 on: Friday 12 November 10 17:11 GMT (UK) »
No marriages showing on SP for the couple.

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Re: The Gorbals, Glasgow (a place)
« Reply #71 on: Friday 12 November 10 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Possible births on SP

1893 RITCHIE JANE GILMOUR Female at  GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

1892 RITCHIE JANET Female at GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

Did any of the children have middle names that could help identify Janet?