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Is it a map...? Is it a game....? Any ideas appreciated!
« on: Friday 15 August 08 14:24 BST (UK) »
On a visit to a National Trust property in Speke, Liverpool yesterday I was shown an item by the archivist ( a friend of mine) of a linen sheet with small card squares on, each marked with a graph and symbols.  It is marked on the back with the name of the owner of Speke Hall, Richard Watt and he lived there from 1740 to 1865.  We have no idea what this could be so I suggested asking Rootschatters!

I have photographed three of the squares, one of which has pencil writing on which is practically illegible but could be names of people.  One looks like Caroline but another looks like Spanish.

If anyone could help, we'd both appreciated it!

Thanks,
MissM

Edit: Have had to delete photos following request from NT. 25/08/08
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CRETNEY (Isle of Man)
KIDD (N Ireland)
DAVIES ( Denbighshire, N Wales)
ROBERTS (Liverpool)
WHITE (Liverpool)
Local History website - www.spekeliverpool.co.uk

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Re: Is it a map...? Is it a game....? Any ideas appreciated!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 August 08 14:25 BST (UK) »
Edit: Have had to delete photos following request from NT. 25/08/08
MONEYPENNY (Liverpool/N Ireland/Scotland)
CRETNEY (Isle of Man)
KIDD (N Ireland)
DAVIES ( Denbighshire, N Wales)
ROBERTS (Liverpool)
WHITE (Liverpool)
Local History website - www.spekeliverpool.co.uk

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Re: Is it a map...? Is it a game....? Any ideas appreciated!
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 August 08 14:30 BST (UK) »
Fascinating!  Will give it some thought - but in the meantime...

Quote from: MissM on Friday 15 August 08 14:24 BST (UK)
It is marked on the back with the name of the owner of Speke Hall, Richard Watt and he lived there from 1740 to 1865. 


...did Richard Watt really live there for 125 years? :o :o :o

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Re: Is it a map...? Is it a game....? Any ideas appreciated!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 August 08 14:45 BST (UK) »
Doh!

I guess the smell of the cow dung used to make the walls of Speke Hall fogged her brains a bit when Chris was working it out!  It was a quick guess from memory as I was leaving!

Looking at the web site there were three Richards in residence over the years so I'm going to say that during the years from 1795 to 1878, one of these was living there and made these drawings!

How's that for a cop out?  ;D

MissM
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CRETNEY (Isle of Man)
KIDD (N Ireland)
DAVIES ( Denbighshire, N Wales)
ROBERTS (Liverpool)
WHITE (Liverpool)
Local History website - www.spekeliverpool.co.uk

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Re: Is it a map...? Is it a game....? Any ideas appreciated!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 August 08 19:58 BST (UK) »
Quote from: MissM on Friday 15 August 08 14:45 BST (UK)
Doh!

Looking at the web site there were three Richards in residence over the years so I'm going to say that during the years from 1795 to 1878, one of these was living there and made these drawings!

How's that for a cop out?  ;D

MissM
dug yourself out of that one well  ;)
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Re: Is it a map...? Is it a game....? Any ideas appreciated!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 August 08 20:01 BST (UK) »
could they be a game of battleships?.
........................ naw!... tooo early  :D
seriously though,
 how about patterns for a quilt or something along those lines?
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 August 08 20:09 BST (UK) »


Wonder if it's got something to do with the gardens ??  :-\ Your Richard started it .... and one of the other Richards finished it !! 

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-spekehall/w-spekehall-gardensandestate.htm

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 August 08 20:11 BST (UK) »
An astronomical fortune telling thingy ??????????
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 August 08 20:52 BST (UK) »
Semaphore????  ???
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