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Offline CoryJR

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« on: Wednesday 13 August 08 22:21 BST (UK) »
If anyone knows any information (parents, siblings, marriages, children, where they lived, died etc) about the following people let me know. These are my direct blood relatives as far back as I can go in England & Wales.  Perhaps you will read the following and come across a root relative of yours and we can start to patch up some missing pieces. Thank-you in advance!



William Roberts & Sarah Fletcher got married at St. George's Church in Birmingham on November 9th 1857. William was 22 & Sarah was 25. Looking for Baptism records of the two, plus need info on each mother.

Thomas Roberts was William's father although I have no idea when he was born or where. He lived on Boerr St. in Birmingham and was a Farmer's Bailiff. I would love to move another generation up from here.

Moses Fletcher was Sarah's father who also lived on Boerr St. and was a Japanner. I don't know his date of birth or where. Another generation?

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Charles Poyser William Brown & Martha Creed got married October 5th 1869 in The Parish Church in Wolverhampton. Charles was 28 & Martha 26. Both families lived on Clarence St. then Salop st. in Wolverhampton.  Charles father was named Joseph Brown & was a Gate Keeper. I don't have any other info than this. I would also like to know who Charles' mother was.

Martha's parents were William Creed & Mary Ann Shenton. They were married in 1838. I will soon have info on each father but if anyone knows who their mothers were please let me know.

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Kathleen Cummins (nee Evans) gave birth to a Dora Lavinia Wright Cummins on December 18, 1902. Dora's Father was Alfred Wright Cummins who was a Iron Roof Erector (Iron worker) in the county of Walsall, UK.  They lived on Oxford St. I don't any details on when Kathleen & Alfred were married or any above generations on either side from here.

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Owen Jones & Jane Hughes were married in 1884 in Pwllheli, Wales. At this point, I do not know when Owen & Jane were born. Owen was a Farm Labourer. Jane eventually gave birth to a Moses Henry Eames Jones on November 18, 1898. There may be other siblings. Same as before looking for info on Owen & Jane's parents or anything else anybody has.

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John Lloyd Williams married a Jane Anne Evans on April 6th 1900 in the District of Ffestiniog in Wales. John was 26 years old & Jane was 21. John was a Slate Miner. John's father was John Williams Sr. and was born around 1846 and most likely worked at the same place as he was a Slate Quarrier. John Sr. married a Catherine however I do not know what her last name was. Looking for more information on anything here.

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Robert Evans & Jane Pugh were married in 1842  in/around the district of Dolgelly, Wales. They had 8 children. Robert Evans was born in 1817 & Jane was born in 1818. Robert's father was named Evan, Evans who was born around 1795.

Robert's son Robert Jr. was born around 1848 and eventually went on to marry an Elizabeth Williams. She was born in 1850. Elizabeth's parents were Griffith Williams & Susanah. This is all I know on this part of the tree.

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 August 08 00:54 BST (UK) »
Re: Sarah Fletcher - here is the 1851 census for Loar St Wolverhampton

Moses Fletcher 42 japanner and beer seller b Wolverhampton
Mary 41 b Wolverhampton
Edward  20  b Birmingham
Sarah 18  b Wolverhampton
Elizabeth  11  b Wolverhampton
Emily  9  b Wolverhampton
William  6 b Salop (Shropshire)
Jane   3  b Wolverhampton
Joseph   8 Months  b Wolverhampton
HO107; Piece: 2018; Folio: 371; Page: 21 
 

1841 census for Loar St (could be Soar St)

Moses Fletcher 30  japanner
Mary   30 
Edward   10 
Sarah  8
Betsey  2 
 
HO107 Piece 1000/8  Folio 17 Page 27

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 August 08 03:52 BST (UK) »
Wow thats terrific news. Funny the writing I have looks like Boerr St but its so hard to read it could easily say something else.

And how do you get access to these census reports?

Thank-you!

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 August 08 17:47 BST (UK) »

Hi

www.ancestry.co.uk has census images and index for 1841-1901 for England and Wales plus the full BMD index from 1837-2005

It also has the 1841-1901 Scottish census indexed but no images

You can pay monthly or buy an annual subscription (£69.95)









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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 August 08 19:32 BST (UK) »
Hi

Some questions before I check any of the others out.

Do you have any of the couples listed on any census?  The 1881 census is free to search at www.familysearch.org

If so - can you list their respective birthplaces from the census as surnames like Roberts, Brown, Hughes and Jones are very difficult to research without knowing their birthplace

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Owen Jones & Jane Hughes were married in 1884 in Pwllheli, Wales. At this point, I do not know when Owen & Jane were born. Owen was a Farm Labourer. Jane eventually gave birth to a Moses Henry Eames Jones on November 18, 1898. There may be other siblings. Same as before looking for info on Owen & Jane's parents or anything else anybody has.

Have you sent for their marriage cert
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 August 08 19:39 BST (UK) »
The 1861 has a Martha Creed b 1844 Wolverhampton in service in Wolverhampton so it's probably her - I'll check the 1851 and email the image to you
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 August 08 19:45 BST (UK) »
Hi
18 Jul 1838 st peters
William Creed 25 servant Bradley  father william Creed dealer
Mary Ann Shinton 23 servant  Bradley father Thomas Shinton Farmer
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Elizabeth Shinton & John Biddulph
http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory

Donna
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 August 08 19:54 BST (UK) »
Yeah I have some marriage certificates and others are coming. Yeah Creed was easier for me to find trace back a bit. I have a ordered one for William Creed & Mary Ann Shinton (I thought it said Shenton) but again its hard to read. - Wow - but it looks like Donna has traced it as well!

The Jones go back to the Pwllheli area. I am assuming Owen Jones & Jane Hughes were born there was well. When I get their marriage cert it should tell me how old they are in 1884.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 August 08 20:42 BST (UK) »
And thanks Carole - I can't wait to see the Image of the Creed's in 1851!