Burns - Costello

[aghadowey]

Irish marriage certificates do not list the mother's names- only name of fathers and heir occupations- so you still can't be sure if the couple getting married in 1832 are Bridget's parents.

[heywood]

good luck with the certificate and let us know!
I did look around the censuses to see if either Martin or Bridget were there in 1861- did not look to be.
Take notice of the witnesses names- they may help.

heywood

[JohnTSmith]

I have the copy of the Marriage Cert.
Bridget Costella father was called Patrick, so it is not the one I found as that was John.

Martins father was called John Byrne, both were dead in 1848.

I think I am now up a blind alley as I do not know just where they came from except Castlebar, and born about 1848.

Thanks for the help.

[trish1120]

Hi John,

Do not be dejected. At least you have more than most of us researching our Irish ancestry.

You have Castlebar, Mayo which can lead you to parish records if you know their religion.

I presume you meant that Martin and Bridgets fathers were both dead when they married in 1868, not 1848 .

Good luck with your research.
Trish

[heywood]

At least you have something - their marriage record. are the witnesses family at all- would they give any more clues?

Does it say on the certificate that they are from Castlebar ?

Realistically it is going to be difficult now- Castlebar could mean the town itself or the wider area.

regards

[JohnTSmith]

At least you have something - their marriage record. are the witnesses family at all- would they give any more clues? No one called Smith !!

Does it say on the certificate that they are from Castlebar ?  NO


Realistically it is going to be difficult now- Castlebar could mean the town itself or the wider area. I look on Google, and it could be any one from about 60 villages in that area
regards

It does not help that they keep changing the spelling of their name.

We are coming over next summer, and see if we can trace anything before then that could help us.

[heywood]

sorry to keep prying- how sure are you that they are from Castlebar - either one or both?

It may be that they both arrived in England, single from different counties and met and married.

Who were the witnesses at the marriage? Could their names help?

cheers
heywood

[aghadowey]

Agree with Heywood that you need to know more information to track down this couple. The marriage certificate lists the residences (townlands) of the bride and groom at the time of the marriage- what is listed for each of them on the certificate?

[JohnTSmith]

They lived in Rotherham, which I knew, and I have them traced on all cenus from 1871 to 1901 where they lived in Oldham. I have the info this end, it is before they married, and lived in Ireland that I am searching out.

On one of their sons Birth Cert it said Mayo, and a aunty knew thew lived in Castlebar, but as they married in Rotherham did they both live in Castlebar, or just one of them?

I now have both their fathers names John Byrne and Patrick Costello.

They changed their (Martin and Bridget) names in England to Burns on the 1901 census, but on that they also said all of the children were born in Oldham, which we know is not true.