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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #126 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:16 BST (UK) »
HI David

I am only going on what was on the original certificate posted on Reply 60.

It states their Signatures .

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Australian  certificates  the  minister seems  to  have written  out  the whole cetrificate


Maybe Jenn has the right idea.

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #127 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:18 BST (UK) »
I've been looking at the online trees this morning, and it will take
a lot more evidence to convince me that the earlier Beds entries on
the online trees are correct.
(see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,320241.new.html#new )

They have no original citations, and all seem to cite other trees, a recipe for disaster.

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #128 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:21 BST (UK) »
I realised that Sandy, and agree that it does appear to be a copy of the original.
I just don't think that the Signatures box contains the signatures of Thomas
and Ellen - the fact that they appear identical to the Names box implies
to me that the same person completed the whole certificate

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #129 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:24 BST (UK) »
Just amended my post to add that is what Jenn suggested.

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #130 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry for butting in. I'll go back to Beds now.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #131 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:33 BST (UK) »
David

You weren't to my knowledge.  :(

It just seem we are going round in circles without confirmation.

Everyone's ideas and help is invaluable.

Especially yours that is why I linked across.

Sorry if it seems otherwise.

Sandy

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #132 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:47 BST (UK) »
Sandy

I don't think this thread is going round in circles. Jenn made a general observation,
which has been progressed to a specific comment on the Australian
marriage cert in question, which I think bears out Jenns experience that
the minister often completed the whole cert.

As such it's not surprising that the "signatures" differ.

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #133 on: Thursday 14 August 08 08:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone

I went off to work last night quite down at the thought that we had two Thomases so it's a real relief to get home just now and find we're back to one again.   All the writing on the Australian certificate does look the same and the two Piddington signatures are definitely by two different people.   What a relief!

Diana
Hakes - Piddington, Northants; Bucks
Hillyard, Lebatt & Bodsworth - Piddington, Northants
Bonner - Warwickshire & Leicestershire
Caughlin - Clonmore Co. Wicklow/Carlow
Muzzell - Sussex
Jones - Rushbury, Shropshire; Nuneaton & Birmingham, Warwickshire; Piddington & Northampton, Northants
Penhorwood - Devon
Shutt - Devon & Kent
Oliver, Davies & James - Pembrokeshire
Green, Enser, Oldham, Bramman, Billings & Watmough - Nottinghamshire

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Re: Looking for Thomas Bodsworth & family
« Reply #134 on: Thursday 14 August 08 17:13 BST (UK) »
Tazzie

You've doubtless got Benjamin Bottesford baptised 14 April 1799 at Tilsworth?
Parents Thomas and Mary.

The Sundon marriage is the only one I can see, and there are children of
Thomas and Mary Botsford/Botsworth baptised
1799 Tilsworth
1800-1810 Luton St Mary
1815-21 Toddington (I wonder if this is a separate couple, although I can't
see a marriage**. I base this purely on a burial at Toddington on
7 Oct 1823 of Mary Bodsworth age 31, which would make her too young to be
Mary Denton)

What was Benjamin's parish of residence on marriage?

David

** Thomas Botsford m Mary Kingham 6 Dec 1812 at Toddington, so these
can be ruled out
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell