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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 12:12 BST (UK) »
Looks like same address in 1871

1871
6 Pelaw Main, Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow
John DOBSON, head mar 54, Ship carpenter, born Wickham
Elizabeth DOBSON, wife mar 46, born Durham
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William DOBSON, son unm 9, Scholar, born Jarrow
Joseph DOBSON, son unm 7, Scholar, born ditto
Frances DOBSON, dau unm 11, born ditto
RG10/5044/94/9

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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 13:53 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Valda and Ian. I did know that births were often registered in different quarters, and should have picked that up. I had similar problems with my mother and grandmother.

It is interesting that a different birth place is given for John Dobson on the two census returns, and Mary does not appear on the 1871 return. But it certainly looks like the same family.  Whickham (not Wickham) is probably the right birth place. From what I can see on the net Dunston/Whickham/Gateshead are all in the same general area.
Myers - St. Cuthberts Edinburgh/Geelong Australia
Greaves Sussex/Durham
McGregor Hewith/Hebburn/Lossiemouth
Dobson Hewith/South Shields
Law - St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh
Malcolm - Lanark - Greenoch - Renfrewshire

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Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 30 August 08 12:50 BST (UK) »
It looks like Sarah Budgen was born 1796 as Sarah Pomphrey in Newick (or Chailey)  the daughter of John and Mary Pomfrey.  In 1823 she married William Harland and they had a daughter Jane b 1824 at Newick. In 1832 Sarah married James Budgen and they had two children – Christiana b 1834 and James b 1836.   Jane Harland assumed the name Jane Budgen for the 1851 Census.

I have sent to the GRO for birth certificate for a male Budgen born 1851 in East Grinstead (maybe this is the one I am after) and the death certificate of Christiana Greves. These will probably take a couple of weeks to get here. It will be interesting to see if they shed any light on the matter.
Myers - St. Cuthberts Edinburgh/Geelong Australia
Greaves Sussex/Durham
McGregor Hewith/Hebburn/Lossiemouth
Dobson Hewith/South Shields
Law - St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh
Malcolm - Lanark - Greenoch - Renfrewshire


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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 30 August 08 14:45 BST (UK) »
Births Dec 1851  Budgen  Male     E Grinstead  7 409
Deaths Dec 1851   
Budgen  Male     E Grinstead  7 294

East Grinstead covers the districts of Crawley, East Grinstead, Forest Row, Hartfield, Lingfield, West Hoathly, Withyham, Worth

Not the Brighton area or Newick areas.

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Valda
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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 30 August 08 17:53 BST (UK) »
I am a bit lost with this one as there are so many threads.  Has anyone found William and Christina in 1851?  Both servants in the same household in Brighton.
HO107 1646 132 20  Christina Budgen age 19 b Newick and William Greaves age 18 b Middlesex London.
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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 30 August 08 18:17 BST (UK) »
Yes, see 10th August post on this thread and then MalGordon's summary on 11th August.

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Valda
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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 30 August 08 19:03 BST (UK) »
Should have known you would find it Valda!  As they were both in Brighton could the baby have been born there perhaps?
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Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 31 August 08 07:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you Valda. I have found that death entry now. Looks like another theory gone west. It was just a clutching at straws, but in the overall context it seemed a highly possible solution.  I think you are probably right, if these are the parents, that the birth could have taken place in either Brighton or Lewes.  I still have that death certificate coming so will wait and see what that brings.

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Malcolm
Myers - St. Cuthberts Edinburgh/Geelong Australia
Greaves Sussex/Durham
McGregor Hewith/Hebburn/Lossiemouth
Dobson Hewith/South Shields
Law - St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh
Malcolm - Lanark - Greenoch - Renfrewshire