WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK

[MalGordon]

I have lost a lot of my information when my PC crashed, but am getting it back together again.

I can still find no trace of my G Grandfather William Greaves. I have found an entry on the IGI site that gives his YOB as 1852, in Newick. I have tried lots of other avenues but can find no other entry for him. I am reasonably sure that this is the right one (as the entry gives his wife as Frances A).

I have census returns for him after they moved to Hewith and married, but his early days are still a mystery.

Can some one suggest any other avenues I can try. Being in Australia means I can not do a personal search and I can only try web sites.


William Greaves     
     Male         
         
Event(s):
   Birth:     
1852      Newick, , Sussex, England
   Christening:
   Death:
   Burial:
         
Marriages:
     Spouse:     Frances A.

[CaroleW]

Hi

The IGI entry is a submitted entry - not an extracted record so somebody else is researching the same family.  Submitted records are often unreliable

Do you have a copy of his marriage cert which will show his fathers name?

If he married Frances Anne Dobson here is the reference

Marriages March qtr 1875   
 
Dobson  Frances Anne    South Shields  10a 864   
GREAVES  William     South Shields  10a 864


 

[CaroleW]

The 1881 census shows him as a sailor which may be why you cannot find him in 1871

There are also these 2 possibilities for not being able to find him in 1861

He was illegitimate
He was legitimate but his father died pre-1861

In both scenarios - if his mother married/re-married he may be on the 1861 under her new surname

[Ruth_T]

1861 census

Chailey - Sussex
Parish - Newick
RG9/585

Budgen Sarah Head W age 64 Charwoman Born Sussex Fletching
Greaves William Gson age 8 Scholar Born Sussex -Brighton

Could be him?

Regards
Marg

[CaroleW]

Hi Marg

That could be him as Chailey registration district covered Newick according to this

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/chailey.html

[CaroleW]

Hi Marg

I give up - I cannot find Sarah & William on the Sussex 1861 on Ancestry.  Can you post the full reference - folio and page number

1901 census shows birthplace as Brighton

[MalGordon]

Thankyou Carol and Marg,  the reference to Sarah Bugden opens another window.  It would seem likely that there would have been probably a daughter of Sarah who either married a Greaves or certainly had a close liaison with one.

The census entry is for Fletching, Sussex and he is shown as being born in Brighton. I would think in those days most people lived married and died in close proximity to their birth place, so this looks promising. 

I have tried the GenesReunited data base but could not find any birth for a Bugden in Sussex between 1817 and 1837, the most likely period. I have also placed a post on their Trying To Find board. Hopefully that might bring forth some further enlightenment  Unfortunately the BDM only starts in 1837.

This is the only record I have been able to find relating to his birth. Unfortunately no further information is available from the IGI entry which I have pasted below.

IGI Individual Record     FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
     British Isles
Search Results  | Download
         
William Greaves    Pedigree
     Male         Family
         
Event(s):
   Birth:     
1852      Newick, , Sussex, England
   Christening:
   Death:
   Burial:
         
Marriages:
     Spouse:     Frances A.    Family
   
Messages:
   Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
            
Source Information:
   No source information is available.

[Valda]

1841 census HO107 1100/3 folio 7
Morgage Row Newick Sussex
James Budgin 40  Ag lab
Sarah Budgin 40 
Christian Budgin 7 
James Budgin 5
Elizabeth ?arland 12
all born Sussex

Christian was a female

Adult ages on the 1841 census usually rounded down to the nearest 5.

1851 census HO107 1643 folio 183
Rough Newick Sussex
Sarah Budgen 56 Head Widow Ag la Widow's Fletchen Sussex
Jane Budgen 27 Daughter Unmarried  Newick Sussex
James Budgen 15  Ag lab Newick Sussex

1851 census HO107 1646 folio 132
75 West Street Brighton Sussex
Thomas Bryer 46 Head Married Cabinet maker Somerset
Mary Bryer 50 Wife Married Croydon Surrey
Christina Budgen 19  House servant Newick Sussex
William Greaves 18 (S?:L) Porter London Middlesex


Regards

Valda

[Ruth_T]

Hi

I found the entry for 1861 on freecen

Ennumeration District 10
Folio 125
page 12
schedule 64
address snells

hope this helps

Regards
Marg