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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #243 on: Monday 11 August 08 14:54 BST (UK) »
yes smileys face reatives in w.a. are also my reatives.it would be good if they took some photos of the gaves for us?
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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #244 on: Monday 11 August 08 17:46 BST (UK) »
Hello Cathay,
                 Here goes with the family tree.
 
Moses Penfold B. Abt. 1828
                     M. 2/4/1849 in Parish Church, Barnes, Surrey. Elizabeth Collison.
                     D.22/3/1889 in a caravan, Palmerston Road, Acton, Brentford, Mddx. Cause of death Malignant disease of large bowel. 1 year.
Moses' Father was deceased when he married but his Father's occupation was Horse Dealer.
Moses' occupation was Hawker.
 
Elizabeth Collison B. Abt. 1829
                          M. 2/4/1849 in Parish Church, Barnes, Surrey. Moses Penfold
                          D. 20/11/1893 at 57 Carpenter Street, Battersea, London. Cause of death Sanguineous cerebral aoplexy. (Stroke)
Elizabeth's Father was Henry Collison. His occupation was Carter, Hawker.
Witnesses at wedding Francis & Roseanna Penfold.
 
Children of Moses and Elizabeth Penfold.
 
Frederick Penfold B. 3/5/1869 in a train at Thurstons Ground, Hounslow, Isleworth, Brentford, Mddx. (Although it says train on his birth certificate, I feel that when asked by the registrar, they said "wagon" and not understanding the Romany accent thought they meant "train". What do you think?)
                          M. 16/10/1892 at St Saviours Church, Battersea Park Road, Battersea, London. Ada Caroline Williams.
                          D. 15/5/1925 at 80 Sheepcote Lane (Mills' caravan yard), Battersea, London
 
 
Robert Penfold B.1/2/1865 at Canterbury Road, Kilburn, Willesden, Mddx
 
James Penfold B. 1859 West Molesey, Surrey
 

 
Chidren of Frederick and Ada Caroline Penfold
 
Queenie Elizabeth Penfold B.17/6/1905 Battersea, London
                                       C.2/7/1905 Christchurch, Battersea, London
                                       M.20/4/1925 St Saviours Church, Battersea Park Road, Battersea, London James Penfold
                                       D.8/1/1962 St Stephens Hospital, Fulham Road, Chelsea, London (Now called Chelsea and Westminster Hospital)
 
Frederick Penfold B.30/8/1898
                          C.11/9/1898, Christchurch, Battersea, London
                          M.Mary Anderson
 
 
Charity Penfold B.1/3/1912
                       M. Plato Penfold
                       D. December 1999
 
Leonard Penfold B. Abt. 1907
                        M. Dorothy Davis
 
Robert Penfold B.7/9/1902 Gurlings Yard, Battersea, London
                      M. 2/2/1920 St Saviours Church, Battersea Park Road, Battersea, London Julia Harvey
 
NB. James Penfold & Plato Penfold were brothers. Their information will be on their branch.
 
Children of Queenie and James Penfold
 
George Penfold B. 5/9/1925 St Thomas' Hospital, Lambeth, London
                       C. St Mary's Church, Battersea, London
                       M. 28/3/1948 St Saviours Church, Battersea Park Road, Battersea, London Lilian Maud Robinson
                       D. Cohill Manor Nursing Home, Chobham, Nr Woking, Surrey
 
Leonard Penfold B. 30/3/1927 80, Sheepcote Lane (Caravan Yard), Battersea, London
                        C. 17/4/1927 St. Saviours Church, Battersea Park Road, Battersea, London
                        D. 13/1/1928 80, Sheepcote Lane, Battersea, London
 
James Penfold B. 1933 (Can't give you any info. on him and family as he is still alive.
 
This is down to my Dad George Penfold.
 
Will now sort out the Williams info. that I have and then my Grandfathers side of Penfolds.
 
Hope this helps someone else. Please pass this on to anyone who needs it.
love Georgina
                         
 




this comes with permission incase anyone else would like it.my friend is not sure we have the right moses penfold see part one. as his dad didnt die until 20 years after the wedding and he sayson her his dad was dead when he married?
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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #245 on: Monday 11 August 08 17:47 BST (UK) »
Cathay thought id try and look for your Henry and Ann but ive found this :)

  1841  HO107 / 958 / 10/13 / 18

Thomas Cooper age 20
Ann Cooper age 20
Thomas Cooper age 2
Elizabeth Cooper age 2 months
Ann Loveridge age 65

All b Somerset, Address South Street, Yeovil

            Sue :)
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Evans  ( Berkshire )
Goodenough ( Berkshire )
Lloyd  ( Berkshire, Canada)
Dance ( Berkshire, Portsea, USA, )
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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #246 on: Monday 11 August 08 17:49 BST (UK) »
hehe,i like it.i dont know where it fits in yet but 10 to 1 it does.well done.
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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #247 on: Monday 11 August 08 17:53 BST (UK) »

Cathay as its last day of your hunt what are you still wanting and ill try and help ;D ;D
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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #248 on: Monday 11 August 08 18:28 BST (UK) »
unfortunately i need moses penfold again.it seems we had the wrong one?i have just put the info up above.  any orchards at all in london or kent would be good.
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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #249 on: Monday 11 August 08 18:43 BST (UK) »
Cathay is this Moses's baptism? You haven't said what his father's christian name was.
 
 Birth: 
 Christening:  24 AUG 1828   Tilehurst, Berkshire, England
 
   


Parents:
  Father:  MOSES PINFOLD  Family
  Mother:  JANE
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #250 on: Monday 11 August 08 18:49 BST (UK) »
Looking at 1841 probably not, that family are living in a house in Reading, and Moses snr. is a labourer.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2
« Reply #251 on: Monday 11 August 08 18:56 BST (UK) »
You were looking for Orchards?

From Mid-Kent Marriages Index 1754-1911 :

31 July 1825   Susan Orchard  &  James Martin     Boxley Parish, Hollingbourne



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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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