CathayB's 2nd chance scavenger hunt ..Part 2

[smileyface471686]

in 1851 at drayton parston bucks
Thomas baldom 53 born oxon kingsey
mariah smith 45 mate broughton northants
ann, sinderella 18, frampton 19, thomas 10, riley 8, martha5, mary5, sarah 2
So Thomas wife mariah is a smith, so could be related to rhoda.....
also in 1851 stokenchurch oxon,
 lewis beldom unm 35 with mother rice beldom 74 and providence hearn niece 22

[cathayb]

just goin for a coffee.i will leave you to answer her smileyface.i have been up all night reading your reports but i don think my head has taken it in yet.you know what your talking about.these are quite a distant line on my tree!!back soon  cathayb

[jamajo]

  Trying to find Rhoda but am posting these i find as well, hope one might help

 RG09 / 609 / 81 / 23

Prudence Smith head unmarried age 34 b Preston, Middlesex occ traveller
Rhoda Smith dau age 2 b Dorking Surrey
Amos Gill lodger unmarried age 27 b Lingfield Surrey, traveller

Address Rusper Street, Rusper

There are other travellers with them

    

[smileyface471686]

My rhoda smith was born aout 1844-1849 ish.... daughter of william smith. On her marriage cert to theophilus scarrott a james and caroline smith were her witnesses.
But any references to rhoda smiths who are travellers are helpful, thanks

[smileyface471686]

Rhoda is on 1901 census back as rhoda smith with sons edward and james at little ilford essex, lots of smiths, webbs, her daughter counsey brinkley down as counsey loveridge, my nan ocean is there, this is where she meets my grandfather tom cooper and marries him at ilford 6 weeks later in May 1901. Toms mother patience smith daughter in law of matty cooper is there also with a couple of her sons but not my grandad. In 1891 rhoda is with christoper smith i think at walpole road, along with a lot of christophers smith family, 1881 shes with valentine brinkley as rhoda brinkley in caravan cuffley, herts. Sorry about the rg numbers but am just doing this off the top of my head at moment, as am busy in garden and need to get back there.
thanks for all your help folks xx

[cathayb]

we willkeep slogging at it.i have just put my dinner in but whiles its cooking i will keep looking.

[jaywit]

Looking at message 162 Mariah Smith saying born Broughton Northants, well I have the PR's for Broughton Oxfordshire and on 28/6/1808 there is a baptism of Maria Smith daughter of Henry and Sarah of Chesterton Oxfordshire, gypsies. Do you think that could be her?

[smileyface471686]

i am beginning to think that rhoda was related to the brinkleys prior to hitching up with valentine brinkley. There is a link to smiths and brinkleys.... One of my brinkleys, jonathan brinkley born 1808 marries Aquila Smith dau of James and Sarah, and they also have a William Smith born 1824, which would be the right age for rhodas father. Brings her into the brinkley family prior to valentine if thats the case. Cant find out much about william other than born north mimms hertfordshire in 1824 parents james smith and sarah.
Someone is saying william smith and sinfoy smith are her parents, but there is no proof just speculation. I need to find rhoda sons edward smith who married priscialla penfold, one of their descendants as they might know. I was in touch with a rose westrop years ago and she was going to put me in touch with them, but we lost touch before she could do it.

[smileyface471686]

Looking at message 162 Mariah Smith saying born Broughton Northants, well I have the PR's for Broughton Oxfordshire and on 28/6/1808 there is a baptism of Maria Smith daughter of Henry and Sarah of Chesterton Oxfordshire, gypsies. Do you think that could be her?

that sounds good, a henry smith who could be a descendent of them was picked up with rhoda in early 1900s putting their caravans on land in edmonton they shouldnt. This mariah smith could definitely be connected with my rhoda, as her 1st theophilus didnt have any connections to the baldoms whom he was with on the 1871 census.
thanks x