HUTCHINS Tir Phyl Gelligaer

[Dannemois]

I agree with D.T. to a point, Pontlottyn was in the hamlet of Brithdir which was one of five hamlets that made up the parish of Gelligaer.  Brithdir being the largest was also split into districts.  Today they are seperate villages, all under the Caerphilly County Borough.

I wouldn't think he resided at Fochriw or Brithdir if his death record states Tirphil.  It is worth giving Caerphilly Council a phone call or letter, they will search the burial records.  Brithdir cemetery is about a twenty-minute drive away for me so If he is buried in Brithdir I can easily check it out if location is known.

Roy

[D T]

Hi Roy,

I based my thoughts on the house address, in that Gelligaer came before Pontlottyn on the address. Pontlottyn has a Station Row, but not a Railway Terrace.  Although, there could have been a Railway Terrace in the past.

I live in Pontlottyn, and now our address is Pontlottyn, Bargoed , Caerphilly.  This is confusing for anyone, especially when we get a delivery.

I think your suggestion to check with CCBC is a good place to start.  Assuming the records were archived responsibly over the changes.

Rhymney Valley District Council took over from the older authorities of Gelligaer Urban District Council, and then in 1996,  Rhymney Valley District Council was amalgamated with Islwyn Borough Council to form Caerphilly County Borough.

[Dannemois]

Hi DT
It can get confusing for those who do not live in this part of the country.  Although I live in Caerphilly, I regard myself a 'Brithdir boy' being raised there.  My mother's side of the family Edwards & Brewers were from Rhymney/Pontlottyn and like yourself, it is far easier when you know the terrority.

I found the staff at Caerphilly Council very obliging so it makes since to start there.

Nice 'talking' to you
Roy