Brunswick Vaults, Upper Bangor 1879-80

[Mysterious Lady]

Hi,

I have an Owen Jones in my family with a place of abode of Brunswick Vaults, Upper Bangor. This would have been around 1879-80.  He's listed on the Bangor Polling District List.  He also owned property on Dean Street.

Does anyone know where Brunswick Vaults is?  I've searched old Bangor maps to no avail.

Thanks for any direction here!

Carol

[pingu153]

Hi Carol
When I was in collage in Bangor we used to drink at a pub called The Vaults in Upper Bangor - I think it is now called Paddy's bar!! It is situated on  the left between the turnings off the A5 of Albert street and Victoria street.
I dont know if this is the same one as the Vaults you are looking for.
Regards
Sharon

[DdraigGoch]

If Patricks bar turns out to be the right place for you here is their website:

http://www.patricksbar.com/

It shows a few pics of the building that may interest you.


Haydn

[Mysterious Lady]

I will check into that, not sure where to start, though.  Maybe I need to find the history of Patricks Bar.

The funny thing about it is that I log on to Patricksbar.com everyday and look via the webcam wishing I was there!  I must visit Patricks if I ever get over there. I even thought I'd call someone to get a 'printscreen' of me looking up at the webcam!

[hiraeth]

Hi Mysterious   

Have you tried this link?

http://www.bangorcivicsociety.org.uk/index.htm

Heather

[Mysterious Lady]

I have, actually, a very nice person (Matthew) has been very generous with his time in helping me navigate around that site to find what I need.

I think the 'Brunswick' name is really throwing me off - I cannot find anything remotely related to the name. But 'Vaults' is a name used in several places in Bangor. So was this Brunswick Vaults in Upper Bangor a hotel? A bar with rooms? I don't know. But I think I'm catching on that 'vaults' is a quaint way of saying 'rooms'. 

I think what is really throwing me off, is why would someone who owns a house in Bangor have his 'place of abode' listed as Brunswick Vaults?  Maybe I need to look in a different direction - I just stumbled upon this information and don't know what Owen Jones was really doing at the time.  Moving maybe? Hmmm.... he was a plumber, maybe he was using the Dean Street house as a business? The Jones family lived there for many, many years, at least since the 1830's.

I've recently found out that the original Dean Street houses were demolished and the area was resized and rebuilt in the 1930's.  I was crushed to read that.

[hiraeth]

Hi Carol

In 1889 Sutton's Trade Directory, under listing for TAVERNS:

Brunswick, William Whittaker, 13 Holyhead Road, Upper Bangor

A couple of my connections from Bangor ran pubs/taverns in Hirael during the 1860s-1880s, the Nelson Tavern and the Ship Launch Inn.  My understanding is that sometimes the establishments were called vaults because many were either located below ground or they kept the hard stuff locked up in the cellar!!  A lot of the taverns also had a couple of rooms for occasional boarders etc.

If you don't have it already, the North Wales Trade Directory CD produced by the Clwyd FHS is a wonderful resource available for purchase online through Genfair.

Heather

[Mysterious Lady]

Thanks Heather!  That's great information.

I'm sitting here tonight going over my Jones line. Happily, they were all tradesmen so the information is more easily found.

I'll be sure to post my results soon.  Hopefully soon.  I'm sure you know how that goes.

[Keith]

There is no Brunswick Vaults listed in Slater's Directory for 1880, but there is an Owen Jones listed at the Manchester Vaults, 15 Holyhead Road, Upper Bangor.