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« Reply #144 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 21:25 BST (UK) »
i got her.at last.i think this is the one.thanks leasanne   rose jane smith staines mar qtr 3a  19   page 496     the only one anywhere near hounslow that year!what do you think are you there irene?
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« Reply #145 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 21:33 BST (UK) »
where you all gone?is it time for coffee break?or have you all got thunder storms. we still got some more brick walls to smash here.theres the ancestors of lilley ball,theres moses,where did he get too after 1841, theres jabez smith who did he marry(the one staying near anthony and eliza smith.then theres the little matter of james archett/orchard. i think he marrieds one of those penfold girls he staying  s family. dont leave me or if you do come back tomorrow.i will be shopping in the morning or we cant eat but i will rush home as quickly as i can.cathayb
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« Reply #146 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 21:40 BST (UK) »
i have just realised i have jabez in my tree but only him and no dates.cause you found him in the cencus with anthony and eliza i can now fill him out a bit.i wonder can we fins some more about him
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« Reply #147 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 21:51 BST (UK) »

Have you got this from 1881?

RG11 / 662 / 60 /3

Robert Penfold head age 31 b Putney, traveller
Mary A wife age 30 b Putney, traveller
Louisa dau age 3 b Hackney, traveller
Henry son age 1 b Battersea, traveller

Address Lower Richmond Road, Udalls Field, Putney.

 Isnt this same place as your Taylors were living?
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« Reply #148 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 21:55 BST (UK) »
gosh that robert and mary are moses and elizabeths son and daughter in law.yes they are in the same place as the taylors and smith were that year.!i dont know about exact adress i will have to check.good on you.thanks. its all getting closer isnt it?
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« Reply #149 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 22:01 BST (UK) »
oh boy it gets better.they are with the smiths!the taylors are on the towpath there in putney.edward smith is son of the smiths in richmond road. acctually its only emma that is a taylor!it must have been smith gathering.!!!!!jabez that i have is also smith and hes with eliza and anthony in 1891 well the next caravan with his mum and ad william and caroline.jabez b. 1878
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« Reply #150 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 22:04 BST (UK) »
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Hi All
For a few years now my family have been trying to find out about the Taylor Family with no movement in getting any further than gossip amongst ourselves
so I'm hoping with a lot of help from you, you can help us.
I've talked to the only 3 surviving relatives about their father and Grandfather and this (I think) is every thing we know

Jabez Taylor (their father) married Emily Dunn on the 18th August 1902 in Fulham, London, aged 21 and was a crater, Father John Taylor, Crater ( I have the marriage Cert)
Picture of the Grave, which reads as follows
Atherlia Taylor (their Grandmother) who died 25th June 1902 aged 64
Emily Taylor (their mother) who passed away 2nd November 1953 aged 72
Jabez Taylor (their Father) wife of the above who passed away 11th Feb 1965 aged 86

This is what my Great Aunts tell me
Jabez Taylor came from Kent because they all went hop picking with him when they were little, and he took them to Kent to live with relatives of his, in tents and caravans, One year he lost a lot of relatives, when a lot of caravans went over the edge of the road killing the people inside,
He took his mothers name because of some feud in the family
His fathers name was Samuel Smith who they think was a gardener and when he died was buried in the Manor House were he worked.

I dont know why he would say on his marriage Cert his father was John Taylor if he knew it was Sam Smith, I cant find a Birth Cert for him without knowing the father, I can find nothing on his mother Atherlia, even in the 1901 Census, although she died in 1902, One of my Great Aunts thinks that he was born in the Croydon area, was always told that the Smiths were relatives.

Any help would be greatfully received, and hopefully one day we could solve this mystery
Thanks again
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« Reply #151 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 22:07 BST (UK) »
okay we know jabez mother was taylor then?he took taylor name from his mum.but really he was a smith!!yet i have him down as william being his dad and caroline his mum.what we going work out from this thencathayb
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« Reply #152 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 22:10 BST (UK) »
 If thats your family Cathay this should be them in 1891 in Camberwell, Surrey

      RG12 / 470 / 66 / 32

Robert Penfold head age 41 b Camberwell occ looks like horse seller
Mary Ann wife age 40 b Camberwell
Rose dau age 18 b Camberwell
Robert son age 16 b Camberwell
Louisa dau age 14 b Camberwell
Henry son age 11 b Battersea
Fanny dau age 9 b Battersea
William son age 6 b Battersea
Richard son age 10 months b Peckham

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Norris  ( Somerset, Oxfordshire )
Evans  ( Berkshire )
Goodenough ( Berkshire )
Lloyd  ( Berkshire, Canada)
Dance ( Berkshire, Portsea, USA, )
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