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[CatOne]

Is this "Amy"??

Alathiah Ball March 1915 Edmonton 3a 796
Groom - Charles Penfold

In 1901, theres a son "Charlie" -

Gurlings Yard, Battersea
Robert Penfold 36 Hawker Kilburn
Mary 33 Portsdown Hill Hants
Phoebe 14 All children born Battersea
Robt 12
Ada 10
Charlie 8
Henry 6
Moses 3
Mary Ann 1

Neighbours are Williams families, also Hawkers, and a James Penfold (40) + family and a Christopher Penfold (50) + wife Patience and children

[cathayb]

just got pop out to the shops back in about hour.sooner if i cancathayb

[cathayb]

i wonder if it was a double wedding?amy and athelia ball and charles and robert.dont worry about late marriage for roberts perants.that often happened(married after the kids were born)if you find amy and athelia are sisters look for an eliza/elizabeth/liely she married alfie kefford in london.somehwere near the old school yard tottenham owned by emma taylor/smith/kefford.emma is also related to the windsor coopers.she has a strong kent connection aswell.

[CatOne]

Theres an Alfred E Kefford marrying a Lizette Frampton December 1915 Pancras 1b 265 

[cathayb]

um i dont know about that one.old joseph kefford married emma taylor who owned totten old school yard and she already had kids with edward smith dont know wherther they married or not,emma and and joe had a son joe kefford 1900 b. who married liely ball.they had a load of kids including a alfie born 1938 who married a nichols and they had an alfie who married a tammy smith.old joe was born 1850 and his dad was also called joe and was sent to tasmania as a convict.we have never found details of him either.     can anyone find moses penfold back in 1829 born yet?married elizabeth collinson.

[CatOne]

This is the Lilley Ball marriage then -

Joseph Kefford Dec 1919 Brentford 3a 447
Bride - "Lilliey" E Ball

[cathayb]

yes thats it.thanks.do we know who lilley balls family and sblings were?

[CatOne]

and -

Joseph Kefford Sept 1898 Islington 1b 826
Brides - Emma Smith or Mary Ann E Best

There are a few Lilian E Balls b. Middlesex, so without the marriage cert, I wouldn't know how to find the right one 

[cathayb]

i am still wondering about moses penfold b.1829.i dont think we have found him yet?unless hes one baptised in 1831?i have found that his son was born(robert)in middlesex and he did marry mary ann(elizabeth)in 1894 battersea london.  moses had aother son frederick who was known as bonnie b.1869 and he married ada corolina williams born middlesesx in 1873.they married battersea 1892.i would really like to see if we can find a connection between mose 1829 and john penfold 1809/10.john was born in wiltshire but i dont know where moses was born.mose married elizabeth collinson in the parish church barnes in surry in 1849