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[cathayb]

so remind me who  was the kent cooper that married finace/definance  penfold?she might be worth following up,as she was from devon i know.didnt her brother albert marry a cooper girl?

[jamajo]

Hi Cathay,

    Is this Defiance Penfold with parents and family in 1891?
         RG12 / 1771 / 73 / 11

            Sue

[cathayb]

yes thats her!perants henry and ocean yes?in soth molten devon.i have found that she married vanslow cooper and had a son orifus.she was born 1878.i know the history of henry and ocean.ocean was a hughes before she married.she is (ocean)our gt.gt.granma one side and our gt.gt.aunt the other side!!!maternal and paternal!thats her finished i know all about her now.thanks.cathayb

[jamajo]

 Cathay can you give me quick update on what you still need please

 Any Penfolds or Coopers you still need. Something for me to try and find

           Sue

[cathayb]

i think i am alright now for cooper and penfolds. what i really need is the killicks and penfolds in kent london.and i would relly like to find any orchards at asll in london or kent.is that any help to you?i cannot believe the brick walls you broke for me.its fantastic.oh and i am looking for isabella smith and her sister.they married millers.in totenham early 1900s.cathayb

[jamajo]

Cathay what years roughly for your familys?

[cathayb]

soory i have been so long getting back to you but i have had nothing but visitors today!!!the first orchard i know of was born 1825 approx in devon and ended up age 16 with moses penfolds family in 1841 cencus.i cant find him after.i would like to know who his family are and what happened to him in future cencuses,the killicks and penfolds were all in and around kent early 1800s til when!!!i dont know aqs i have only just started research them.   isabella smith and sister rebecca were 1890s to 1900s born and married in 1902 and 1925.both sisters married miller brothers!big age difference between sisters and bros though wasnt there?i will try and dig up some more info.cathayb   jamajo.do i know you from anywhere else.i keep thinking your my friend from romanygenes sue day but i know your not but you seem very knowledable and i feel i should know you but just cant place you at the moment.cathayb

[cathayb]

as my name is birch i expect you realise my main line in my rather large tree is BIRCH.NOW THE BIRCHES DIDNT GO MUCH TO KENT EXCEPT ONE that i know of  that is ellen birch who married joshua cooper.they split divorce or not married anyway and he married louisa birch. they would be around the 1880 1890s together i would think.apart from knowing they are relatives of mine i no nothing more than what i have put here.i am in touch with their present day reliatives but other than this i dont know.oh yes i do louisa dad was henry birchb.1839 and her mother was either catherine westcott or alice dymond.we dont know which as catherine died soon after louisa was born and alice was also in co hoots with henry by then.  this is just to put cat among the pidgeons so to speak!as the purpose of this hunt was to connect kent/lodon/devon roms.louisa and joshua cooper lived in kent i do know.henry louisas dad was born in devon.

   i ma still looking for these?any ideas anyone?

[cathayb]

isabella smith born 1883 married james miller (hawker)1902 and her sister rebecca born 1898 married henry miller 1923.these were london and kent smiths.there are penfolds and coopers(john)in this line too.

  these are the smith family and millers i am looking for.cathay