CathayB Second Chance Scavenger Hunt. Everyone Welcome to Join In.

[davidpinkney]

no first off moses penfold jnr died 1889 in a caravan in parmeston road acton middx.maybe that was moses snr?that you got?  i dont know who emma kefford with john smith and grandchild is?related though i expect.jamajo i expect your right.i better just go check the tree and not rely on my memory?

yes Moses senior as age was 71 at death as noted

[jojoc]

hi cathay joseph kefford snr married emma smith previous taylor in islington registrar office in 1898 emma was staying at wilsons yard islington at the time of marriage , i believe this was called the agricultral hall  emma and joseph and their family were in brook street in 1901 census and were under the name hefford emma said she was 20 and joseph 25 how that worked when emma eldest son by edward smith edward jnr was born in abingdon 1878 and registered in august of that year next came albert, jane, rose and youngest annie vaious ages for these children are given in the census returns.Joseph snrs father was thomas kefford according to their marriage cert and was a deseased swing boat propritor joseph also called hinself a swingboat propritor
ps. irene here at last

[Lesanne]

  Please could someone tell, where Rosie was born on 1901 census?

I can't find them with that ref nos. Where is the family of 'visitors'. Argggh

[cathayb]

at last some one who knows what they are talking about.oh i am sorry i didnt mean all you who are helping me but i meant me as this is quite wide away line of mine!we are only related by marriage to this lot so far but its jojoc direct family so she will be able to help more than me on the smith/taylor line.no you other rooters are fantastic.i dont know how you do it when often you know nothing about the family concerned.take a bow all of you and i will crwl back under the table where i belong.!!cathayb     she was born hounslow  THE CENCUS IS ON PAGE ONE OR TWO AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS HUNT.CATHAY

[cathayb]

she was born HOUNSLOW that is consistant with the other cencus reports.

[cathayb]

hows this for clever?hi my sue?how are you?this is a fun one!!!taylors/smiths/penfolds/blackwells/and now maybe orchard. oh and keffords.speak in a minute to you.  has anyone found moses penfold jnr in the 1851 cencus yet.we have his perants now all through till he died.and in 1851 his perants are with a james possibly orchard?but no sign of moses jnr.do you think he joined an army?he married in 1849 so unlikely isnt it?i think i may have found his wife elizabeth with her daughter in law ada/amy in 1891.still checking it.will let you know.

[Lesanne]

At last! Who's the other Emma Kefford in 1901 then that I found earlier? 

Joe Kefford 25 Traveller and Hawker Hertford
Emma 20 Staines
Joe 8mo Tottenham
Edward Smith relative 30 Abingdon
Janie Smith relative 25 Putney
Albert Smith relative 20 Kingston
Rosey Smith 15 relative Hounslow
Annie Smith 12 relative Willesden

Caravan Brook Street, Tottenham
RG13/1248 Folio 72 Page 78

This one
SMITH  Rose Jane    Staines  3a 19  Mar 1890.

This is the only one for that date 1888/89/90 in Staines which was the forerunner of Hounslow... Looked in Uxbridge. nowt.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/ealing.html

Just looking at Brentford.

Staines is good as it's near Windsor... well between Windsor and London

Then you have Hounslow info which says Staines, Uxbridge and Brentford at that time.



Didn't you say her mother was in Windsor?

Are these yours?

RG12/1273 Folio 126 Page 6
Building Ground, Caravan, Hibbert Street, Luton, Beds
Albert Smith 35 Traveling Showman Bucks Stewkeley
Emma 34 Bucks Windsor
Teddy 13 Oxford Abbington
Albert 10 Surrey Kingston
"Rossie" 1 Middlesex Hounslow

They seem to match the 1881 census found by Jamajo and the "relatives" living with Joe and Emma Kefford in 1901 census...

I'd go for this one Cathay.... 50/50 chance it's the right one.....    

[Lesanne]

Better go Thunder storm

[cathayb]

dont go yet.if your still there tell me how to find the ref to send to the gro?i dont know where to find it.help someone