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Manitoba immigrants help please
« on: Monday 04 August 08 16:46 BST (UK) »
I am looking for Robert KIpling Crump b.1902 & his mother Elizabeth Ann Crump b1870 in England.
I recently found they had sailed from Liverpool to Montreal in 1910 and was in the 1911 census for Selkirk ,Manitoba as follows:

28    98 Crump Eliza   F Boarder W Nov 1870 40 1901
      29    98 Crump Robert   M Boarder S Oct 1902 8 1901.

I have tried to find them since but so far not successful.  I would appreciate if anyone could point me in the right direction  to find out what happened to them since.  There are about 10 in Manitoba directory. 

I am also struggling with why she would leave her family in Yorkshire as a widow with a small child to go to Manitoba.  She was a teacher.

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Yorkshire: Myers, Ratcliffe, Crump, Simpson,Boocock,Varo, Gent, Winsby
<br />Co.Durham: Waiting, Steel

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Re: Manitoba immigrants help please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 01:44 BST (UK) »
If they were going to stay with someone, it might say on the passenger list.

National Archive Canada - Passenger Lists
(Not transcribed, but they are free) Ship - Virginian arriving 1910
http://tinyurl.com/6gr4qb


Last name: Crump 
First name: Elizabeth
Year of departure: 1910 
Departure port: Liverpool
Ship name: Virginian
Destination country: Canada
Destination port: Montreal
Travelling with: Robert Crump 

1911 Census
(just to help others when searching)
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=41443

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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Manitoba immigrants help please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 01:53 BST (UK) »
You might also want to check out the Manitoba Vital Statistics site.

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Manitoba immigrants help please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 01:56 BST (UK) »
The site is down again, Janice  >:(  ::)  Oh, wait...Now it's working...

This would be a guess right now, but the massive migration into the west probably created a large demand for educators...Importing form Great Britain would help fill the need...Also there were many rural schools due to the large rural/farming population....
I would say she was a brave person to have crossed the ocean with a young son, looking to start a new life in Canada !...

It's hard to find someone after the censuses...but I'll keep my eyes peeled for them....
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Re: Manitoba immigrants help please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 02:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Janice and J.J.   She must have really wanted a new life to take such a step as a widow with a child.  In the census they were boarders with a family but I don't see a connection there. Does anyone know if there are cemetery records on line for the Selkirk area? 

Jean
Yorkshire: Myers, Ratcliffe, Crump, Simpson,Boocock,Varo, Gent, Winsby
<br />Co.Durham: Waiting, Steel

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 02:23 BST (UK) »
We have little online as far as cemetery transcriptions, but the MHs has done many towns and charges a small fee for a lookup...I'l get that url for you...

However, I just peeked at the 1911 census, and it says Selkirk,
Parishes of St. Clements and St. Peters east of Red River
So I don't think it is Selkirk the city, but Selkirk, the town?

East Selkirk Village is located in the Rural Municipality called St. Clements ...and
is   directly across the Red River from Selkirk...which would be east of the Red
River...think that is how I read it
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 02:33 BST (UK) »
Yes, I think that should be right as here is St. Peters church...R.M St Clements

http://www.rmofstclements.com/History.htm
http://www.rmofstclements.com/index.htm

You could write to see if they have any history of their schools & teachers
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 02:59 BST (UK) »
Well, it seems it could have been anywhere in the municipality of St. Clements....
I guess it would be an Anglican church...?
The St. Clements cemetery lists are on this page...
http://www.mbgenealogy.com/index.php?page=r-s

The order form is halfway down the page
http://www.mbgenealogy.com/index.php?page=cemetery-transcriptions

( she may have remarried or moved, though, so....)
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 04:16 BST (UK) »
Here is another site to keep an eye on.

Canada GenWeb Cemetery Project
http://cemetery.canadagenweb.org/MB/index.html

Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie