Jane Jolliffe Ackerman

[allibaker]

this looks like where the jollife / ackerman connection began -
joan ackerman married william jollife 14th nov 1770 bridport dorset as taken from the BIVRI VOL 2
regards
alli

[heywood]

Hi alli - oh no! what are those children doing now whilst mum is at her computer 

I too am apologising for possibly repeating information - I don't think from reading here that you have Jane's marriage certificate? It is odd that those names that alli shows appear here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ackermanuk/bap4.html
but there is no sign of Jane - any Jane for that matter around the right time. If I recall the IGI were submissions not actual records extracts.

I was thinking that at least the certificate would confirm her father's name and perhaps for some reason she hasn't been identified in any baptism records. It would be back to the parish records then I suppose.

Well alli- that's my distraction from housework!

best wishes
heywood

[allibaker]

  sometimes it helps not to know what they are up to 
lol
it does seem strange that she doesnt show in the records but hey stranger things have happened
regards
alli

[bellbird]

Morning folks. too tired to make it a good one and work calls.  I have located Jane through her brother Henry Jolliffe Ackerman.  A fiesty man by all accounts or according to a newspaper report of his day in court.  He'd come down to Wellington from Carterton (NZ), don't know whether it was fortunate or not but husband John Powell Thomas Grant Webb (found him in a Bridport Parish record of christenings28/2/1834 parents Robert and Mary) was halfway across the Hutt River in his boat when Henry arrived threatening to "do" for Jane.  He was going to burn their house down and do for her.  People arrived as he was beginning to beat her up.  He reckoned they got him out to NZ by misrepresenting things (inviegled the  word he used) and owed him money.  10pound fine and 3 months bound over to keep the peace.  Great being able to read the newspaper report.  Apparently Jane and Henry's Dad William upset Bridport folk in some way and was asked to leave.
He went to Burton Bradstock with wife and 2 children, had 3 more there including Jane and Henry before returning to Bridport where he had 1 more child.  Would love to know what was behind him being asked to leave Bridport :   Blow my faces won't come up.  Have found the grandaughter in Wellington of John and Janes.  I come through daughter Elizabeth and she through daughter Mary and I now know who all the Salmon photos are of, Mary's family.    If anyone can track down info on Jane and Henry I'd be grateful.  Do you know of any sites I could get onto in Devon, I've put a  couple of requests for the Cranch Family but have heard zilch and wondered what other way I could do some tracking down.  Thanks in anticipation.  Bellbird

[bellbird]

Morning again.  Just found a boo boo in my last effort JPTG Webb's parents are Robert and Elizabeth not what I said.   Bellbird

[carol8353]

Anyone else who wishes to help with this thread,please note the work already done by some of us on http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,314299.msg1976264.html#msg1976264

Once the marriage cert is purchased and we have prooof of the Jane's father's name, his profession,and possible linked witnesses,it should be easy enough to follow this family all the way backwards.

Carol

[bellbird]

Thanks for all your efforts you helpful people in Dorset.  I tried to find Jane through her brother.  A photo of his grave stone said he was born in 1838 in Burton Bradstock.  A lady looking for Jane also is in Wellington and through a historical research person in Carterton I was put in touch with her.  Turns out Jane is  both our Great Grandmother.  So we plod on together now  in the search.  According to a lady in the USA that had contacted Vanessa William was asked to leave Bridport so took his wife Elizabeth and 3 children with him, he had Jane and Henry at Burton Bradstock and a 6th child back in Bridport.  So it would appear that  the William and Elizabeth are the parents of Jane Joliffe above, Henry had Jolliffe in his name too as did his father, appears to be a family name.  I have been emailed  photos of Henry and his wife Susan grave stones by the Research lady in  Carterton.  I'll try and get hold of a man who lives outside Christchurch who apparently has contacts in the UK who will send him photocopies of documents and certificates and see if he can find them for JPTG Webb & Janes WEdding, and Robert & Elizabeths
so we can see where we go from there.  Thanks   Bellbird.

[History Girl]

Hello There, I am new to Roots Chat, joined today.

Saw your post about Jane Jolliffe Ackerman. For the past two years I have been tracing my Ackerman Family,  my gt gt gt Grandfather was William Jolliffe Ackerman  born 1778 in Bridport Dorset England.  He was married to his first wife I Hannah Ackerman nee Stone, in 1800, they had around 9 children including a Henry born 1822 and a Jane born 1802.  I then have a second  marriage for William Jolliffe to Elizabeth March in 1828. Desperate to find out more about William Jolliffe, he died in 1838 in Bridport, the death certificate is very interesting.  Would love to share any other information with you.  I have the Ackermans going back in Bridport to around early 1700's
Best Regards:

[carol8353]

Welcome to Rootschat History Girl.

I'm sure Bellbird will be thrilled to hear from you. I see he/she hasn't been on Rootschat since November.

You need to make at least 3 postings before you will be able to send a Personal Message,so if you reply to this one a couple of times ,you'll have your three 

All the best

Carol