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Re: Red Lion, Walter Street, Jarrow and the man with two names mystery
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 17:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks Moira and Andrea, I will follow up.
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Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: Red Lion, Walter Street, Jarrow and the man with two names mystery
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 23 August 08 10:58 BST (UK) »
Just to update you all. I now have the marriage certificate for Robert alias Edmund to Elizabeth Longstaff as Dave thought.  I cannot be 100% certain as the ages given are just full age.  However it does show the correct name for Edmunds father.
I have also spotted a death in 1866 for an Elizabeth Calvert, if this is the same one then Robert alias Edmund may have been a bigamist and this could be the reason he went to Birkenhead and changed his name.  I will let you know when I recieve this certificate.
Once again thanks for all of your help.
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Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: Red Lion, Walter Street, Jarrow and the man with two names mystery
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 December 18 13:06 GMT (UK) »
My records show that Robert Davies was born in Birkenhead ca 1853 (there were two Robert Davies's born that year) and his wife Fanny Smith was born in 1851. They had two sons, Robert Peter born 1876, and Arthur (my grandfather) born 1881. Robert senior is listed as an engine fitter of 18 Richmond Cottages, Birkenhead (in my grandfather's birth certificate). I am still trying to track Robert Peter's line. Hope this helps.

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Re: Red Lion, Walter Street, Jarrow and the man with two names mystery
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 December 18 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Thank you ChrisWall47 for your interest in my post. I have established with supporting primary sources that ‘my Robert Davies’ was actually Edmund Calvert. He was born in Bowes, Spittal, Yorkshire. He only assumed the name Robert Davies when he arrived in Birkenhead. Following my initial posts on this subject I have established that he was the first person in England to be charged for being drunk in his own pub. He was a colourful character!! He inherited money from his grandmother and seems to have been an unsuccessful business man, in many ventures, hostelry, pubs and even a farm at one time. None lasted long. It does look like he ‘fled’ the North East and had very little means on arrival in Birkenhead. However, soon after his death his children suddenly appeared to have substantial means. A real character.
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork