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help with tracing relatives again please
« on: Tuesday 29 July 08 19:32 BST (UK) »
right ive started to do my family tree with all my past relatives this what ive found so far
we are related to sir issac pitman (shorthand inventor) we were origionaly {NOTT or KNOTTS} in wales we were of wealthy descendants and one of the family members married for love putting family into shame  and then we were disowned  and became poor as well as the following

Charles Field was born on 12. 07.1874 at Briton Ferry. 
He was a labourer before he joined the Royal Navy at Devonport on 11.09.1894 to serve for 12 years as stoker 277845. 
On 15.09.1914 he joined the Royal Naval Division at Crystal Palace (HMS Victory 2) and went into the 5th Nelson battalion of the 2nd Brigade at Blandford, Dorset.

The Royal Naval Brigade Was formed in August 1914 by Winston Churchill and consisted 12 battalions formed into two infantry brigades:
10.04.1919 he was awarded 1914 Star.

Charles Field died in August 1920 (aged 46 years), the Army claimed he was fit on discharge, therefore denying his wife a pension.  He is buried in plot 552 at Ynysmaerdy Cemetary Briton Ferry.

Nov 1920 Paid £10 Naval Prize Fund.
Aug 1922 Paid Final share of Naval Prize Fund.
Sep 1923 Paid Supplementary Prize Share.
24.10.1923 Awarded British War & Victory Medals.



other names i know attached to family are Ted and maude husband and wife, olive, nelly mauren lilly the file attached doesnt say surnames or dates sorry can anyone help me please i also have a history report of the battalions if it helps anyone

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Re: help with tracing relatives again please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:04 BST (UK) »
Could you explain exactly what you are looking for? There's lots of bit of information in your post but I'm not sure what you are hoping to find.
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:07 BST (UK) »
i have no idea where or who are my family only ones that are alive and living and even they know very little just hoping to do a proper family tree with all ancestors on it if i can going from what i know of people today as well as past if that makes sence

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:33 BST (UK) »
How is Charles field related to you?  Do you want to try and trace fwd/back or have you got all info?

Here he is with family 1881.  Not sure what you need either ?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03yx/


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Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
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Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:34 BST (UK) »
Are you trying to trace living relatives? If so do be careful about posting details of living, or possibly living, people on Rootschat.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:35 BST (UK) »
Good Evening Heidi ;)

P.S she aint trying to trace living rellies :) :)
Ricky (1954 - 2010)

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:58 BST (UK) »
Maybe this is the 'Pitman' connection?

Marriages Sep 1907   
 
FIELD  Charles    Neath  11a 1517   
PITMAN  Eva Emma     Neath  11a 1517

Births Dec 1912  Field  Edward I  MMN Pitman  Pontardawe  11a 2133    (uncle ted maybe)

Births Dec 1914   FIELD  Nancy A L  MMN Pitman  Pontardawe  11a 2142   

Births Sep 1919  Field  Winifred M  MMN Pitman  Pontardawe  11a 1914

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Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 22:10 BST (UK) »
No MMN but looks likely  :)

Births Dec 1909   Field  Lily Ann D     Pontardawe  11a 1113

Births Mar 1911   FIELD  Olive E     Pontardawe  11a 1108


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Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 22:19 BST (UK) »
Isaac Pitman was born in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, by the way. Cas has given you the 1881 census nad from that we can see that Charles Field was the younger of 2 brothers born at Briton Ferry and there was a third, still younger brother, born at Nailsea. Somereset, about 9 miles from Bristol. Charles' father was Isaac, age 30 born at Ston Easton, Somerest and his mother was Elizabeth, 34, born Brixham, Devon [it appears].

We find Isaac, age 20, also at Briton Ferry in 1871, boarding with another Devonian, John Blackford.

In 1891 we find Isaac remarried to a widow Phyllis [formerly Singleton]. the other children are with them and she has two daughters from a previous marriage,  Hannah and Edith. Interesting is that Isaac's aged father is with them. He is Joseph age 70, also born Ston Easton. Charles is not with the family who are now at Raglan Lower.

Even the birth of Isaac is easy to find. He is registeed at Clutton, Somerset - March quarter 1851 Vol. 11 page 108.

We see him also in the 1851 and 1861 censuses - the easiest person to track that I have ever come across.

One clue to the Ted and family could be Charles brother, Edmund but those were normally Neds, not Teds.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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