Robes and Shallikers, Bristol and Lancs

[pippip24]

Hello all,
I am completely stuck on info on my great-grandfather, James Henry Robe, born (I think) Bristol, c.1862, died Bootle, 1946. His wife was Ellen, but whether her surname was Blackwood or Pay it is hard to be sure.
I would love to know if anyone has a James Henry Robe who fits into their family tree so that I might be able to get a bit more info.
Also, does anyone have Shalliker for Lancashire, mid-late 19th c.? Perhaps a marriage between Edward and Isabella, both born about 1814-17? I think that there were 5 children, including Isabella, born 1842.
Does anyone have any idea where this family came from?

Thank you so much,

Pip

[nanny jan]

Hi Pip,

Welcome to Rootschat.

This could be James and Ellen's marriage registration:

James Henry Robe  MarQ 1894    Barton R.  6a  174

Possible bride:  Ellen Blackford Pay


Found on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Nanny Jan

[yonderpeasant]

1891 Bristol St Philip and Jacob North RG 10/ 1980/59/8
19 Oxford Place
Harriet Robe head m 48 living on her means   b.Gloucestershire  Syston
James H       son   s    20 tailor                        b.                         Bristol
Mary            daur        11 cholar                                    do

[yonderpeasant]

Cant see Ellen in 1891 but here she is with parents and what looks like  Grandparents in  1881
1881 Gloucester Bristol st Philip and Jacob Out
39 Stanley st
Robert Pay head mar 41 ?? Cutter   b.London
Sarah          wife  mar  42                     Bath
Eliza          daur  s      16 milliner          Bristol
Sarah          daur         14 scholar             do
George        son          11   do                   do
Ellen             daur        9                            do
Jeremiah Blackford head mar  79 furniture dealer b.Tiberton nr Bath
Eliza Blackford        wife mar  72                        b.wilts Milksham




Robert Pay Marriage possible bride Sarah Blackford Jun 1864 Bedminster   (free Bmd

[griz]

Welcome Pippip  

 I am presently looking at some 'Shalliker' genealogy  in Manchester for a relative,  but I have only just started and have not got any information connecting to yours so far, though I think it is quite likely there is a connection as the name is quite rare.

 I was curious about the origin of the name too, as on searches  I found a lot of variations in spelling.
I did come across this website  which has some interesting ideas about where the name originated: there may be others.

 http://homepages.tesco.net/~ann.stewardson/shollike.htm

If I find a connection to yours I will let you know.

[pippip24]

Thank you - that is brilliant. Do you know if there is any way I could find out his parents' names from marriage records? I have tried to find his birth certificate, but without knowing exactly where he was born - I can't presume Bristol - I am a bit stuck!

Thank you again

Pip

Hi Pip,

Welcome to Rootschat.

This could be James and Ellen's marriage registration:

James Henry Robe  MarQ 1894    Barton R.  6a  174

Possible bride:  Ellen Blackford Pay


Found on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Nanny Jan

[pippip24]

Really fascinating - thank you, I am so glad that I am not the only one looking for this. A Lancs background would definitely fit - thank you!

Welcome Pippip 

 I am presently looking at some 'Shalliker' genealogy  in Manchester for a relative,  but I have only just started and have not got any information connecting to yours so far, though I think it is quite likely there is a connection as the name is quite rare.

 I was curious about the origin of the name too, as on searches  I found a lot of variations in spelling.
I did come across this website  which has some interesting ideas about where the name originated: there may be others.

 http://homepages.tesco.net/~ann.stewardson/shollike.htm

If I find a connection to yours I will let you know.

[pippip24]

Wonderful, thank you. That explains why she called herself Blackford on her gravestone, rather than her married name of Robe. Thank you so much - your work has cleared up months of confusion

Cant see Ellen in 1891 but here she is with parents and what looks like  Grandparents in  1881
1881 Gloucester Bristol st Philip and Jacob Out
39 Stanley st
Robert Pay head mar 41 ?? Cutter   b.London
Sarah          wife  mar  42                     Bath
Eliza          daur  s      16 milliner          Bristol
Sarah          daur         14 scholar             do
George        son          11   do                   do
Ellen             daur        9                            do
Jeremiah Blackford head mar  79 furniture dealer b.Tiberton nr Bath
Eliza Blackford        wife mar  72                        b.wilts Milksham




Robert Pay Marriage possible bride Sarah Blackford Jun 1864 Bedminster   (free Bmd

[nanny jan]

Hi,

You should have the name of his father on the marriage certificate, plus his occupation, which might help to find them on a census.

Registration of a birth was not compulsory until mid 1870s so he might not have been registered but possibly was baptised.


Nanny Jan