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Were Registrars located in Churches?
« on: Friday 25 July 08 03:33 BST (UK) »
I am trying to understand a Death Certificate from 1857, the part I am wondering about is the 'signature of registrar' this column looks like it says 'Saint Andrew's Registrar'.  The Registration District is Louth and the sub-district is Withern, there is a St Andrew in this area.

Is it common that Registrars were available in Churches or am I way off the mark here.  What is weirder is his brother is called "Saint Andrew" because he was born on 30 November - St. Andrew's Day.  Okay bad coincidence?

Any assistance would be welcomed.
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 08 07:35 BST (UK) »
Not only were are.

Parish registers record the baptisms, marriages and burials in a particular parish. They are kept in the church until full.
When the register is full the vicar (incumbent) has the option of sending the full register to the Diocesan Archive, often a county archive but not necessarily for the county the parish is in.
The vicar (incumbent) also has the option of keeping the register at the church if he/she so wishes.

In addition the second, or duplicate, marriage register is sent to the Superintendent Registrar in the same way as full civil registers.

There are good and bad points about both sides of this argument.
Having a central location allows easier searching of records and should provide better storage and security.
On the other hand if a disaster happens (fire flood etc.) there is more chance  of loosing more records than if they were stored remotely.
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 08 08:09 BST (UK) »
The question seems to appertain to the Registrar, not the Registers .....
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 08 08:21 BST (UK) »
He is probably the Registrar of the Registration Sub-District of St. Andrews. I see that the sub-district Withern.
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 08 09:32 BST (UK) »
Yes I mean the registrar column on the death certificate - on other certs it is normally a signature of the registrar by the looks of things but this one looks like Saint Andrew's registrar, that is why the confusion, as this is a church not a person?  Still confused really but thank you for your contributions everyone.
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 July 08 13:14 BST (UK) »
In 1856 Mr. Samuel Andrew was the Registrar of Births and Deaths  in the Withern District.

looks like it says 'Saint Andrew's Registrar'

will be his signature  :)

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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 July 08 17:19 BST (UK) »
The question seems to appertain to the Registrar, not the Registers .....

Yes, I should have read that properly, teach me to answer when getting ready for work.
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 July 08 04:23 BST (UK) »
Ok yip, I can see that too, I do believe it is Samuel Andrew (I'm starting to see things) the L was very faded and I thought it to be a T.

How do you know Samuel Andrew was the registrar for that year in that district?  Do you have a link where registrar names are available?

Everyone has been very helpful - Mystery solved!
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Re: Were Registrars located in Churches?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 July 08 09:12 BST (UK) »

How do you know Samuel Andrew was the registrar for that year in that district?  Do you have a link where registrar names are available?


By using http://www.historicaldirectories.org/   :)


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