Jack & Annie Rowley, Hamilton, ON - Lost

[kiddo]

Seems TOT BUT:
I have John Rowley b. Brantford (20 in from Hamilton) living in Detroit at time of marriage , carpenter
marrying Annie King  in Brantford June 13 1924
Annie d/o Thos King and Mary Mellican ???which doesn't fit at all
but her witness was from Hamilton.
The parents throw it off but if she was a home child would it be a "taken" name and she's a bit too old
BUT:
John Rowley looks good..do you think there are other marraiges along the way maybe he married our Annie later, there are 30 years in there for something to happen?? He is a carpenter and he lives very near Hamilton??
I'll continue hunting from this side back..
Kiddo
 

[Jacquie in Canada]

The marriage registration for John Rowley and Annie King indicates both were born in Brantford. It also indicates John was 30 and Annie was 32 at the time of their marriage which would give her a birth year of 1894 so she's much too young to be the Annie on the 1881 census. Also I found Annie with her parents on the 1901 Canada and her father was born in Ontario and her mother in Ireland. I found John Rowley on the 1901 census as well and his parents were both born in Ontario and his father (who was with them) was born in Ireland.

Kay, going over some of the information in this thread I'm not sure I understand why you think Annie Vernon Harper born 1880 is this Annie/Polly. You indicated that your aunts said she was around 60 in 1954 which would give her a birth year closer to 1896. Even if she was closer to 70 that would still make her too young to have been born in 1880.

Jacquie

[kiddo]

Jacquie..I posted this marriage as a remote possibility for "Jack" and an "Annie" because the name and profession and locale all work for Kay's verbal story from her aunties. Just a piece of info for thought.

Checking out more Harper/Rowley's in Hamilton area..
K.

[J.J.]

Hi Kiddo, et al..hard to follow this thread, I know...but I think we finally proved she wasn't a home child. J.J.

[J.J.]

Hmmm...but kiddo's point taken that Jack could have been married previously and so might Annie have been...
Who knows if we aren't looking at the same man as she found, but with a second marriage to annie...and certainly at any time of life....and even to the Annie Campbell found.....anyway, a needle in a haystack to find the information if it goes that far into the century...J.J.

and for those wondering, Jack/John are interchangeable...don't ask me why it is so?

[Jacquie in Canada]

Here's what I'm asking, Kay:

Why are you sure that Aunt Polly and Annie Vernon Harper are one and the same?

It occurred to me since my last post that Polly is a nickname for someone named Mary, not Annie.

You also indicated that your aunts said she was about 60 when they visited her in 1954. If their age estimate was correct, it would be impossible for the Annie Vernon Harper who was on the 1881 and 1891 census to be Aunt Polly because someone who was about 60 in 1954 would have been born about 1894, not 1880.

Is there a Mary in your lines that could be the Aunt Polly your aunts referred to?

Jacquie

[kiddo]

Kay.. I apologize!!
Kiddo (me) decided to work on finding "Jack" and "Annie/Polly" (Vernon/Harper) Rowley from this CAN. side in Hamilton  based solely on the description from the Aunties. (Please note they are Kays aunties not mine) and it is Kay's thread.
I am not convinced this Annie is Annie Vernon, but I believe this couple fits the description given..John's name and "Annie", ages, occupation, locale all fit. "Auntie" was also a term used for close friends of the family.
Other possibles I have found are:
Annie Hasper/?Harper the adopted daughter (home child)living with Sherricks in Stayner doesn't appear to pan out.
1901 There is an Annie V Harper b. 1883 ONtario living with her parents Hamilton
Father - Will. J. Harper (Irish)40 Car Conductor Hamilton Street Railway
Mother - Annie 40
Siblings

So maybe the question to Kay is ..How is Annie or Auntie Polly related to your Mum. and what are the names in her generation. It might help look for a family naming pattern or a generation in between. Also did the aunties visit other family on their trip across Canada??

Tangential thinking..or cast a wide net!!
I'll be quiet now!!

[Jacquie in Canada]

My apologies to you, kiddo. I got you and Kay mixed up. I meant to address my questions to her. I'll edit my post to reflect that.

Jacquie

[J.J.]

ah, we posted together....whew, I was wondering what?? ( so no need to post that it was she who made the initial booboos re: age & name....nor has she answered us  )

I should apologize for making the thread longer but I wanted to solve the baby thing and I believe we may have found the correct parents.. ...the other well... we aren't a site for searching for descendants , anyway, but for ancestors...
so, Good job!  Let us get on to another search !    Hugs! J.J.