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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #99 on: Monday 05 July 10 15:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry i'm so slow with information, too many other things to do! This is one of the documents I mentioned in my first post. Education was not cheap even then! The top paragraph reads "An acc't of What money has been Expended on the Education & Maintenance of Francis Mathew, Son of Thomas Mathew Esq: from June 1752 being the time of his going into England in Company with the Right Hon'ble the Lord Viscount Fitzwilliam, to the year 1760, No Charge being made here for his Maintenance Clothing and Education from May 1746 to June 1752 during which time he was maintained, Clothed and Educated by Richard Mathew Esq his Grand Father"
The total sum was for £436.1s.7d. This included a sum of 10s 4d, 6 months wages to Ball Carrol for his attendance on Francis, I assume he was a servant.

I downloaded and can open the document but could not bring it up clear enough to read.

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Mathew/Mathews - Tipperary
Matthews - Dublin
Langron - Dublin
Davies - Galway and Sligo
Doyle - Dublin and Wicklow
Trafford - Ireland ?

Page - Balham/Wandsworth
Champion - Clapham/Wandsworth
Lang - Guernsey
Pitcher - Guernsey

Docwra - Royston Hertfordshire/Chelsea London
Burgess - Chelsea and Pimlico
Hession - Mayo Ireland
Pateman - Litlington Cambridgeshire
Norman - Clerkenwell, Islington and Fulham

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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #100 on: Monday 13 September 10 12:13 BST (UK) »
The Gentleman's Magazine of August 1781 recorded the funeral of the first Ellisha Mathew, wife of Francis Mathew, first Earl of Landaff, thus (p. 342):

Deaths: In the county of Tipperary in Ireland, Mrs Mathew; whose funeral exceeded any thing of the kind ever seen in that kingdom. Besides the different corps of Mr Mathew’s volunteers, who came upwards of 20 miles to meet the body, and to pay the last honour so justly due to to the respected wife of their esteemed commander, all the nobility and gentry of the county and its neighbourhood seemed to vie with each other in their expressions of sorrow. The aged, the young, and infant tears were shed for the death of this beauteous, worthy and accomplished woman. Nor was this tribute more than justly due to so much virtue and exalted merit. One hundred and fifty mourning coaches, fifty-four of which were drawn by six horses, with a great number of servants, were sent by them to join the funeral procession; and when it arrived within a few miles of the place of interment, every thing was arranged in melancholy state and funeral order. His Grace the Archbishop of Cashel dressed in his full pontificals, with his mitre on his head, accompanied by a long train of his diocesan clergy, appeared, and joined the solemn march, as did also the Titular or Popish Archbishop, with his clergy, together with the greatest tenantry in Ireland; one hundred and twenty domestics dressed in black, and a numerous train of old men and women in deep mourning, pensioners, who were cloathed and fed by the humane hand of this charitable woman; and almost all the inhabitants of the country round. The place of interment of that antient and respectable family is in the centre of Thomas-town Park (the greatest and most princely demesne in this kingdom), embowered in a wood in the cemetery of a ruined monastery; to this there is no road; but the peasantry of the place, unsolicited, and of their own free motion, since the death of their much-loved and lamented mistress, gravelled a road through the park, of some miles in length to it, and over the sacred spot, where her remains were to be deposited, erected with pious hands a rude though handsome mausoleum. The procession, with extended near five miles, being arrived here, his Grace the Archbishop performed the funeral service, whose distress was so visible, and whose feelings were so nicely expressed, with the circumstances of the place, the number, and the unfeigned sorrow of those who assisted, added and awful dignity to this grand and mournful scene. Eight noblemen bore the pall on this occasion. The family dissentions, which for a century have divided the great people of the country, seemed to be buried with the body, and is an happy presage of succeeding days of peace and harmony.


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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 06 October 10 15:07 BST (UK) »
I am a descendent of James Matthews who emigrated to Boston in 1718.  I think he was a grandson of Theobald.  Can anyone tell me where I might find information about James' lineage?  We think that James was born ABT 1690.  He was married to Mary McGill.  Many thanks for any help anyone can give.
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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #102 on: Monday 29 November 10 20:08 GMT (UK) »
For those looking for Robert Mathew who settled in Ballymena, I know of a branch of this family who settled originally in Belfast before 1600.  They were from Wales, Pantygored, Pentyrch, Cardiff, to be specific.  William Mathew was the first of this family to settle in Belfast.  His son, Robert, settled in Glenarm, Ballymena.  His great grandson, also Robert, as was his father, remained there.  If we can call him, the last one I have a record of, Robert Matthews IV, was born some time around 1700.  His father died in 1752. I used "Matthews" because his father is the first of this line who changed the spelling of the surname Mathew to Matthews.  His siblings were John, William, Hans & Martha.  William and his offspring moved to Briarfield, County Tyrone.  William's grandson moved to New South Wales.  I have no idea if this is in fact your Robert's line, but it is certainly possible.  If this your line, it goes back to Robert ap Mathew ap Ieuan, brother of Sir Daffydd Mathew.


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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #103 on: Sunday 20 March 11 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I have just come into the posession of a number of legal documents relating to George Mathew of Thomastown, dated 1650's onward, relating to land transfers, loans and the like. These are amongst several hundred documents of all sorts dating from 1603 up until 1890's of many different surnames, I am still going through them but some relate to the Duke of Ormond, some relate to George Mathew in Llandaff, and as I have only just discovered this site it seems they may be of interest to you all. I will be trying to catalogue as many as I can over the next few weeks, but some are quite difficult to read. I will try to get them in some sort of date order.

Hi Crauford

I wonder is there any mention in your papers of Edmund Mathew, who came across to Ireland from Radyr with his brother George? Edmund was a Colonel and Governor of Newry when he died around 1654 in Newry, unmarried and childless, possibly from starvation.

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Jim



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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #104 on: Sunday 20 March 11 19:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the information.  How can we access this "new" 1600s Irish information? 

James Natthews Sr came to Boston from Ireland in 1718.  Within a year he was in Chester County, PA.  Somewhere along the way he married Mary McGill.  Their son, James Jr married Mary Doak, moved down the Shennandoah, to Mecklinburg County, NC.  In their old age they moved to Maury County, Tennessee.  I am their descendent, and my family still owns one of the original farms.  We have several heirlooms, including a half peck measure that supposedly came from Ireland.

We know that the Matthews, Doak, Walker, and Hanna families migrated together for about 100 years, all ending up in Maury County, TN about 1810.

We have not been able to identify James Sr's father.  Sounds like your "new" info is a good lead for study,
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« Reply #105 on: Sunday 20 March 11 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Itmatt

My interest in Edmund arises from a note I'm writing on the history of Blockhouse Island, a fortified island in the mouth of Carlingford Lough (in County Down, Northern Ireland). The blockhouse has generally been believed to have been built in or before 1604, however my researches have (I think!) revealed it to have been built around 40 years later under the direction of Edmund Mathew, who was at the time Governor of the town of Newry, and of the outlying garrisons of Narrow Water and Carlingford. His Governorship was sponsored and funded by James, Marquis of Ormond(e), his relation via his brother George, and Charles I's Lieutenant General of Ireland.

If you look at Page 18 of the Journal of the Royal Historical Society of Ireland (see http://www.archive.org/stream/journalroyalhis03irelgoog#page/n25/mode/1up), you will see some extracts from the Calendar of State Papers of Ireland communications between the Marquis and Edmund. Also, Page 281 of the Red Dragon magazine (see http://www.archive.org/stream/reddragonnation00unkngoog#page/n301/mode/1up) gives a genealogy of the Mathews of Aradyr [Radyr] and mentions Edmund.

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Jim







 

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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #106 on: Sunday 20 March 11 23:15 GMT (UK) »
I would love to see your results when completed.  I am from the line of Theobald ap George and reside in the USA.

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« Reply #107 on: Sunday 20 March 11 23:20 GMT (UK) »
The small amount of information I have on Edmund is that he became guardian of his brother's minor children and left his estate to them when he died.
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