Lady Ellisha Mathew

[exilewa]

rymer, that would be grand but I am not sure how to arrange this -  can confirm that my father was James Walshe and he passed away in 1982.

[rymer]

exilewa, Go to the top of the Roots Chat page and click on message...

[nerys-wales]

There are several links on the net to the Mathew family and the Welsh side of this family still survives today. The Irish branches died out a long time ago and the lands to my knowledge went to the Wade family and some of it was sold to Tommy Stack (showjumping). The family was Roman Catholic and descended from Elisabeth Poyntz of Iron Acton (England), who was also Roman Catholic. This family produced a nun (Nano Nagle) and a priest (Theobald Mathew, who created the Presentation Sisters and the Temperance Movement; the family was well and truly Catholic. Nano was the daughter of Ann Mathew, great granddaughter of Elisabeth Poyntz.  Also, the surname was Mathew not Mathews and always has been way back hundreds of years to David Mathew of Llandaff, Glamorgan. I am not sure how Wades inherited the Mathew lands but I saw somewhere on the net it was through marriage, which would cause the Irish Mathew branch to become extinct. I am not connected to this family at all but love researching old Welsh families and hope this info might be of some help.

[Oaks and Acorns]

Knock-of-Ella

Knockavilla?

[Oaks and Acorns]

Tommy Stack (showjumping)

Tommy Wade was a Showjumper.

Tommy Stack was a Steeplechaser. He rode Red Rum to victory in the English Grand National at Aintree and still trains horses in Thomastown.

Dara.

[nerys-wales]

Lady Ellisha Mathew (formerly Smyth) married Francis Mathew (1st Earl of Llandaff) and her children were Francis (2nd Earl) George and Montaque, known about London as the three Mr Wiggins. The family name was Mathew not Mathews so I would imagine the Grafton Street Mathews were not the same family, therefore no connection. Also, the name Eleisha is not a form of Elisabeth but of Eilish, which is Irish for Alice. I enclose a couple of links that may be of help.

http://www.oceansbridge.com/oil-paintings/product/41374/mrselishamathew1777
http://www.bridgemanartondemand.com/art/169499/The_Three_Mr_Wigginss_published_by_Hannah_Humphrey_in_1803

[cmathews]

Another wet Sunday afternoon and another shoe box full of Grandfather's  (Reggie) photos.

Text as written on the back of the photo

Ronnie: 13          Father:32              Billy: 14
                            (Altie)

Jill: 8                  Betty: 11              Jack: 7
(Miriam)            (Elizabeth)             (Cecil)

Doing the maths there is no way Altie is 32, taking that he was born in 1898 and died in 1951. 
I have it that if Billy (William Peel Beresford Mathews 1921 – 1979) was 14 when this picture was taken,
then Altie was 23 when Billy was born; so Altie must be 37 in this picture.

Either that or my dates are wrong - which is of course quite possible.

[cmathews]

And I eventually found the portrait photo of  Rev. Robert's wife, Elizabeth Catherine Humphreys
that was promised ages ago.

[bowles]

Hello,
I just chanced upon this forum and I noticed that Lady Ellisha Mathew said that Francis James Mathew, last Earl of Llandaff, had no children.  I have a family tree provided by a relative that shows him as having two daughters, one of whom was called Mary.  believed that Lady Mary Mathew married Patrick Duggan, the captain of her father's yacht.  Patrick Duggan is my great great great grandfather. 
I am therefore confused.
Bowles