Lady Ellisha Mathew

[wyseass]

This was posted in reply to my question about Robert Mathews in genforum by Nick Reddan -
"Alumni Dublenses has:
Robert MATTHEWS son of John, musicus, born Co. Tipperary, matriculated 1812 aged 15. BA 1817 MA 1820".
It could be him!  Who knows? 

[Oaks and Acorns]

I attach a pic. of the silver salver passed-on to me by my Mother.

This reminds me of the Agnus Dei symbol
http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/symbols/agnus_dei.htm

Dara.

[sbwelsh]

Moderator:  Thank you for that information.  I am, as you can tell, new to this . I do believe this makes my third post!

[rymer]

To exilewa - Has Josie Wade (fomerly Breen) three siblings, Alice (Ryan), Bridget (Hickey) and Michael Breen? Also, you say your mother lives in Hickstead. Is she related to Shane Breen married to Chloe Bunn. The Bunn family own the Hickstead show jumping grounds and Shane won lots of cups for showjumping. He is also from Tipperary (near Cashel) and was trained by Tommy Wade.

[rymer]

The Mathew family of Thomastown descended from George Mathew of Llandaff and Elisabeth Poyntz of Iron Acton, Glocestershire. Elisabeth Poyntz was the widow of the Duke of Ormond, family seat, Thurles and also an ancestor to Prince Charles and Princess Diana. Her grandaughter (Nano Nagle) founded the Presentation Convent School for Girls and her grandson (Toby Mathew) founded the Irish Temperance Society. Toby and Nano were cousins. The family became extinct around 1836 on the death of Francis (Earl of Llandaff) who died without issue. His brothers, George and Montaque never married. The family name was Mathew (never Mathews) and there was a branch at Annsfield (Cork) also, I believe, extinct. The only survivors left are from the original Welsh branch. Re Beresford, Lord Waterford (the Marcus of Waterford) is Patrick Beresford lives in Portlaw, Waterford.

[rymer]

Back to exilewa, cos I'm trying to work out who you are. Is your mother Winifred (Winnie) Wade and did you haver a brother Maurice who was a Tory MP or a minister for housing or something way back in the sixties? or were you Maurice?

[maria_]

Dear all, I have been given a picture of my Dad's (John Beresford Mathews) signet ring, and although a little blurry - you can see it's the same emblem - I do believe my Grandad Marcus Beresford was a member of the Masons, so my Mum remembers.

I would love to know more about this too!

Thanks
Maria

[exilewa]

Rymer, regarding my mother's family (the Wades), Winnie Wade was my auntie and her son Maurice my first cousin (he was a member of the old Greater London Council many years ago).  He has two sons.  My grandmother Josie Wade did have the three siblings you mention.  My first cousin still lives near Cashel.  My mother is the last surviving child of Josie Wade and she married James who was also a resident of Thomastown (in fact he lived on the farm by the Theobald Mathew statue).  I am not sure if I am a distantly related to Shane Breen but it seems highly likely.

Moderator's Note: Edited to remove details of living people. Rootschat is really here to help people find their ancestors, not their living relatives, and because of that, we do have a 'no living people policy'. That means if you do post names and information about them it will be removed to protect their identity and privacy. Please use PM (personal message) system to exchange information on living people.

[rymer]

exilewa, I used visit Thomastown as a child and played in the castle ruins, which was why I was searching Tipperary ancestors in the Cashel, Emly and Knock-of-Ella area. But beyond that is against the rules, so hope you don't mind if I PM you.