Lady Ellisha Mathew

[wyseass]

  How nice to hear from you.  I have found you on the family tree my late uncle gave to me, and am delighted that you got in touch.
The whole crux of it is to discover finally who were Rev. Robert Mathews parents, as this has never been done with proof.
I am also now trying to find a connection between the Mathews and Beresford's, as the use of the name 'Marcus Beresford' by Frederick Mathews for his son has intrigued me.  There must be a reason to use another family's names.  I just need to find it, so any info. on that would be much appreciated.
Marcus Mathews (Banker in Northern Bank), was joint manager of Henry Street, Dublin.  Promoted to manager of Grafton St in 1904 and then further promoted to Secretary of the Northern Bank in 1927, when he moved back to Belfast.  This info. is got from "Irish Times" archives, which I can access at the library.
I can't tell you how thrilled I am to hear from you, and I'm sure ChrisPage will agree.

[ChrisPage]

Welcome to rootschat chris. Good to see someone else researching Lady Ellisha.
I am also trying to find a family connection to one of her sons Thomas or Robert or William fitzwilliam.
I have got back as far as my GG Grandfather John Matthews bn abt 1820s, and have found my connections all in Dublin so far.
Look forward to seeing any information you can post on here as I am still not sure which of Ellishas sons I may be related to.
Would be interested in seeing the photo of the Rev Robert if possible.

wyseass lucky you finding a new relation.

Happy new year.

Christine

[cmathews]

If anyone is interested I have a summarised copy of 'Genealogy Of The Earls Of Landaff' specific to Ellisha's lineage (and beyond).  I have the original huge old faded negative the document was produced from, I think this is as a result of some research a distant relative commissioned while in Dublin.  It says on it

Printed by J. T. DROUGHT, 6 Bachelor's Walk, Dublin

Unfortunately it has no further details about Ellisha's sons though

I have found you on the family tree my late uncle gave to me, and am delighted that you got in touch.

Can I ask if the uncle who's family tree you are working from was 'Marcus Girling' ?

If so then we are working from a tree originating from the same source.

Would be interested in seeing the photo of the Rev Robert if possible.

I will dig out the photos and scan them.  Do you want me to post them to this discussion ?

Cheers -- Chris

[wyseass]

The family tree I have was given to me by my Aunt Betty and was done by Marcus Girling.  My Uncle Ronnie did some work on it and a cousin (his granddaughter) has all his papers, one of which is Rev. Robert Mathews ordination papers, I have asked her for a copy, but haven't received one yet and will ask again.
Seemingly there is a portrait of Rev. Mathews at Ballymena Academy, and Uncle Ronnie saw it there.  It would be lovely to see a photo of him and his wife. 
Robert Mathews must have come from somewhere?   

[ChrisPage]

If anyone is interested I have a summarised copy of 'Genealogy Of The Earls Of Landaff' specific to Ellisha's lineage (and beyond).  I have the original huge old faded negative the document was produced from, I think this is as a result of some research a distant relative commissioned while in Dublin.

I am most interested in this. It might be exactly what my father had a copy of. Unfortunatley it was lost along with a family tree when my brothers house had a bad fire. I was told my great grandfather had it done in Dublin.

I will dig out the photos and scan them.  Do you want me to post them to this discussion ?

If you could post photos that would be great, if not would you be able to email them.

Christine






 

[cmathews]

I have scanned the copy of GENEALOGY OF THE EARLS OF LANDAFF

Attached is part 1 of 3

[cmathews]

I have scanned the copy of GENEALOGY OF THE EARLS OF LANDAFF

Attached is part 2 of 3

[cmathews]

I have scanned the copy of GENEALOGY OF THE EARLS OF LANDAFF

Attached is part 3 of 3

[cmathews]

I am probably going over areas you lot have already been through, but I dug this photo out while at my Mum's yesterday from some of my late Father's notes about Frederick Albert Mathews (1827 ?)  The back of the photo sas it was originally produced by a photographic studio in Ballymena.

It is something to do with the 18th degree of Free Masonry (Knight of Eagle and Pelican) so not sure if this is another area of investigation.

Also, I saw some posts made by you two in response to to another forum from Valerie Mathew about a 'James Mathew'

http://www.jenforum.com/matthews/messages/5434.html

and have now paid my £3.50 and downloaded Lady Ellisha's (Elizabeth's) will.  It is hard going but just about readable.  Sad I know but I found it quite exciting to find something concrete about Lady Ellisha   Has anyone managed to produce a full transcript ?

And finally there are three protraits of Lady Elisha's mother (Elisha nee Smyth/Smith - wife of Francis Mathew)

http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/person.asp?LinkID=mp11438

Enjoy.

Cheers -- Chris