John Black/Isle of Lismore

[Billy Anderson]

Hi My 2x Great grandfather John Black was a Blacksmith from the isle of Lismore.
He was born in 1860 at Clockalea which I found with the help of Donald Black on Lismore.
John Blacks parents were Donald Black( Slate quarrier) and Catherine McIntyre
he moved to Glasgow pre 1886 were he drowned in 1896.
Looking for the marriage details of his parents and deaths and any pos. siblings
any help would be most appreciated, Billy.

[Joyful]

Hi Billy

John Black son of Donald Black and Catherine McIntyre appears to have had at least the following siblings:

Ann      b 1 Sep 1835 Lismore
Chirsty b 2 Jan 1838 Lismore
Mary    b 23 Sep 1844 Lismore

this is from the IGI and they are extracted entries.

I can't readily see a marriage for their parents. You may have more luck searching for the marriage on SPeople.

Joy

[Billy Anderson]

Hi Joy, thanks for the info and speed of reply, I will check out the details, many thanks, Billy.

[Joyful]

Hi Billy
You're welcome.
I thought I would check the 1841 census before I go to bed but it doesn't help much

1841 Census Argyll Civil parish Lismore parish no: 525

Donald Black 30 joiner b Argyll
Arch Black     60 cotton [that's all that's written] b Argyll
Catherine Black 30   b Argyll

It looks like the right family but there should be at least 2 children. Perhaps they were away visiting or perhaps they died.
What do you think?

I'll have a look at the 1851 census for you in the morning.

Joy

[Billy Anderson]

Hi Joy, many thanks for more info,like me you must be on Oz time, many thanks Billy.

[Joyful]

Hi Billy
Sorry for the delay.
1851 Census  62 Franklin St Calton Glasgow
Parish No: 622
Civil Parish Calton
ED 21A
H'Hold Schedule 75
Roll CSSCT 1851_147

Donald Black  Head 37 labourer in colliery b ca 1814 Lismore Argyll
Catherine wife 35 b ca 1816 b Ardnamurchan Argyll
Mary Dau 6 scholar b ca 1845 b Glasgow
Donald McPhail 26 lodger labourer in Dye works b ca 1825 Ardnamurchan Argyll
Duncan McPhail 28 lodger labourer in Dye works b ca 1823 Ardnamurchan Argyll

I'll have a look at the 1861 census next

Joy

Edit Sorry Billy do you already have all the census information for Donald and Catherine?

[Billy Anderson]

Hi Joy,
Thank you so much for the work you have done.
I had nothing on Donald and Catherine.
Their son John my 2x Great grandfather was born in Lismore in 1860 and he was married to Catherine Donald from Enzie in 1883 in Glasgow his address given as 161 Houston st.
I should also try and find them on the 1881 census to see if they are in Lismore or Glasgow.
I thought they were still on Lismore and John left for Glasgow.
If I can find them on Lismore in the 1861 census then I think they could be my Blacks. I supose it is pos. they moved back and forth between Glasgow and Lismore. much thanks for all your work.
Billy.

[Joyful]

Hi Billy

The list of siblings I gave you for John Black definitely had as parents Donald Black and Catherine McIntyre. I'm almost sure that the 1851 census I gave you is the correct family. Unless there were two Donald Blacks who married two Catherine McIntyres which is of course possible.

 However as you're not sure, I'll continue looking. I'll have a look at the 1861 census next.

joy

[Joyful]

Hi Billy

I can't find John Black with parents Donald and Catherine in 1861 census in Lismore or Glasgow. It is more than possible that I've missed them. Any other way that I can help? I also have the '71, '81, '91 & 1901 census if you would like any other lookups.

Joy