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Re: Emma Spraggs
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 July 08 07:54 BST (UK) »
Trish and Sue.....had a thought.....a long shot......if BELL was the name of the father.....maybe after the birth of the child Adelaide Mary Bell Spraggs, the mother posed as a widow and went by the name BELL. Can we find any likely records in that direction......  ???  :-\


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« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 July 08 08:19 BST (UK) »
Good thoughts dee.
Or did it just come from Campbell

Her step father
Sue
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Re: Emma Spraggs
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 July 08 12:13 BST (UK) »
Good thoughts dee.
Or did it just come from Campbell

Her step father
Sue

I would think more likely to be the father  - I also wondered about name changing - or else she went back to England, or to NZ? They both seem to have disappeared.

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Re: Emma Spraggs
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 July 08 12:16 BST (UK) »
Another thought!  Perhaps she married and the daughter took the father's name as well.  Or worse scenario, she/both died. You people are amazing! What a great site! Can't believe people are so prepared to give up their valuable time in this day and age to help others research.  Thanks so much!!


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Re: Emma Spraggs
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 July 08 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi danal

By the 1890s marriages and deaths were 99.9% registered, so this is why we are looking at other ideas. A name change would probably not be recorded anywhere - thus much harder to find. If she simply moved in with a partner & took his name - it is more difficult to find her.

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Re: Emma Spraggs
« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 May 10 07:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I have just started doing some family research and believe that Emma Spraggs was my great great grandmother on my fathers side.
Adelaide May was my grandmothers mother.

We are trying to find out more about her and her family from the UK and why she moved to Australia in the first place and also who may have been Adelaide May's father.

If anyone has any information that would be great.
 Regards
Anna 

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Re: Emma Spraggs
« Reply #15 on: Monday 10 May 10 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hello Anna

Emma Spraggs born in 1856 in Chatham was a the sister of my great  grandfather on my mother's side. I knew she emigrated to Austrailia after 1881 and had a child there called Adelaide May (presumably after the place she settled in). Her mother remarried and on the 1881 English census she is shown as a Tailoress (aged 25) living with them. Her relationship is given as step daughter. She then emigrated, but I do not know the exact date which perhaps you can help me with. I also know from someone else's tree that she was quite a pioneer (a single woman travelling on her own with convicts!) and made all her own furniture etc. After that, I know nothing about her or what happened to her daughter or family. It would be great if you could help me with the Australian side as you are obviously her descendent. I can help you with some of the English side. As you can see from the other posts, people have been very kind in researching for me to try and solve the puzzle about what happened to both Emma and Adelaide as they both seem to  have vanished once they arrived in Austrailia. Would be great to solve our puzzle too.

best wishes Audrey

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Re: Emma SPRAGGS
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 06:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your quick reply,

For our family Emma seems to be a bit of a mystery woman and I am only now just starting to get a bit more of an idea about her and her history.

We know that she arrived in  Adelaide, Australia in Nov 1884 and we have a copy of her diary whilst she was onboard the ship. The last entry is follows

Nov 20th 1884
“Such a rush with the ladies this morning for servants most of whom were engage in half an hour. I engage with Mrs Wright went this afternoon with a lady to see Miss Dutton who made me very welcome, sent her servant to see me in the train that I might not loose myself the place very pretty.”

We then know that Adelaide Mary Bell Spraggs was born in the suburb of Parhan in Melbourne 1887. Why she was in Melbourne and who the father was we dont know.
She then travelled at some point from Melbourne to Price in South Australia about 100klms from Adelaide.

Once in Price she opened up a General Store. How a woman/single parent managed to travel on her own across the country and then have enough money to buy and run a local shop is a real mystery especially in those days.

Her daughter Adelaide married and went on to have 6 children one of which was my grandmother.

 We do wonder why she left the UK on her own and did she keep in contact with her family?  Also you mention about her travelling with convicts could you let me know where I could get some more information that?

Any other information you might know would be greatly appreciated.

Please tell me what I can help you with from our side of things and if you would like a more detailed family history for Adelaide's Family.

Thanks again
Regards
Anna

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 14:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Anna
What you have told me is very interesting. My mother's cousin, Joan Spraggs, is the one who did all the research which she originally gave freely and in good faith to other Spraggs' family members in Australia. She spent many years of her life travelling all over the UK to collect information which is now on various people's trees, as she never had a computer and had to do all her research in person. I know she was very angry when the people she informed made it generally available on the web because it was her life's work and she had intended to write a book on the subject. They really had no right to make it general knowledge.
As she never married and had children and her only brother's children did not really have much interest in her research at the time, she passed me a copy of all her notes and research to keep safe with the proviso it was not to be given to anyone without her permission. I had not even shared it with my own brothers. However, that has now all gone by the board because of the sharing of info. by the people she originally gave the information to and the launch of the web sites such as ancestry. She is now a very frail old lady and somewhat confused, but I am still in contact with her. So much of the info. is thanks to her dedication.

Would it be possible for me to have a copy of her diary also? I could then show Joan and this may go someway towards compensating her. I would be happy to pay postage etc.  She did get as far as knowing she emigrated to Australia, but beyond that, research became impossible as she could not visit Australia and the research sites did not then exist.

I can also help you with where the English side of the family are now.
I mentioned convicts because, of course, some of the fellow passengers would have been prisoners being deported to serve their sentences in Australian prisons set up by the British Government.