Huddersfield birth

[Anne of Selby]

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to find the birth of my gran, Edith Rusby. She was born 13/Oct/1886 in Huddersfield we think.
Her mother was Ellen Rusby born in Thorne 1869, there is a marriage for Ellen in the May quar. 1886 to George Scholes. Which you would think meant they left the marriage a little late but on the 1901 census it has as Edith's step-father so either George wasn't her father or didn't admit to it.

My mum did say that there were uncles and an aunt on her mother's side but didn't know if they were younger or older, their names were Thomas, Arthur, Joseph and Ada.

I'm going to have to send for Edith's birth certificate  I suppose and Ellens as well to get back another generation.
I think you should get a discoult on certificates after the first 20 or so.

All the best, Anne

[avm228]

FreeBMD at www.freebmd.org.uk has this likely birth registration:

Edith RUSBY Dec 1886 Huddersfield 9a 326

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to find the birth of my gran, Edith Rusby. She was born 13/Oct/1886 in Huddersfield we think.
Her mother was Ellen Rusby born in Thorne 1869, there is a marriage for Ellen in the May quar. 1886 to George Scholes. Which you would think meant they left the marriage a little late but on the 1901 census it has as Edith's step-father so either George wasn't her father or didn't admit to it.

I'm not sure why she would have been registered as Rusby if her mother was already married to George Scholes.  I'm also not sure what you mean by the "May quar" 1886; the quarters are Mar, Jun, Sep, Dec.  I'm not easily finding the marriage at all

Anna

[avm228]

Now found the marriage (again on FreeBMD) - it's as follows:

Jun 1888

Ellen RUSBY
George SCHOLES

Thorne 9c 977

so young Edith was already a toddler...


Anna

[CaroleW]

The Rusby/Scholes marriage was in 1888 - not 1886 so it's very likely that Edith was Ellen's illegitimate daughter

Ref is June qtr 1888 Thorne 9C 977

[Anne of Selby]

Now you see why I'm having fun with this one.

Sorry about the wrong year of the marriage what it should say is Edith Scholes( my mat. Gran) was born 13/Oct/1886 at Huddersfield.
When I got her marriage certificate it has father's name as George Scholes but she is down as Edith Rusby Scholes and that is how she signed the register.
I thought great mother's maiden made-- I can trace that line now how daft can you get thinking it could be that easy.
Looking on FreeBMD I found the marriage for George Scholes and Ellen Rusby in 1888 Thorne.
On the 1891 census they were found at Thorne and we have George and Ellen, then there is Edith down as step/dau age 4 years. I don't know what her surname was down as but on the 1901 census was Edith Scholes and still living at home.
She married my grandfather in 1906 in Thorne.

I can see this may mean a day at the archives. Can anyone tell me where the archives are and if it's easies to park there or do the last leg by bus?

Thanks for all the help, Anne.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Would you not be better waiting until you get Edith's birth cert?  If she was illegitimate, perhaps Scholes unofficially adopted her as his own daughter hence the name at marriage.  The 1891 census entry appears to indicate that she was his step daughter and not his biological daughter

What info are you hoping to obtain at the archives?

Have you looked for Ellen on the 1881 census which is free at www.familysearch.org and she is listed with her parents and siblings

[brer]

Which you would think meant they left the marriage a little late but on the 1901 census it has as Edith's step-father so either George wasn't her father or didn't admit to it.

The 1901 census has Edith as George's "Daughter in Law" 

Going back 10 years Edith is Edith SCHOLES on the1891 census and is George's "Step-daugter"

~ C

[avm228]

Which you would think meant they left the marriage a little late but on the 1901 census it has as Edith's step-father so either George wasn't her father or didn't admit to it.

The 1901 census has Edith as George's "Daughter in Law" 

"Daughter-in-law" was commonly (though not invariably) used to denote stepdaughter in those days.

Anna

[Anne of Selby]

I will be sending for Edith's birth certificate but they only tell you the bare facts, the reason I want to go to the archives and see the parish register is sometime you get a vicar or verger who puts a comment in the margin. I found a baptism entry for one of my husband's kin, who I couldn't find a father for, the vicar had very kindly put in the name of the father and then crossed it out. I've found some great comments in margins like "illegitimate- 3rd. child"  but the best was " illegitimate ( Fred Price paying 6d a week)

I've looked for Ellen on the 1881 census and found the likely candidate, daughter of Robert Rusby in Thorne. I've penciled this in but I've no prove yet that this is she, but I have high hopes. (ever the optimist)

Anne.