Can someone please date this lady and baby for me? COMPLETED - THANKS EVERYBODY

[Maggie.]

I am a novice in this PM business - but am I right in thinking some of the adults have been 'propped-up' 

Incidentally - I agree  Yikees!!!!!  But it is food for thought ..... and she does look VERY weird...... those eyes 

Maggie

[JJbeech]

hi, yikes hadn't thought of that!!!
However, having looked at the pic alot I don't think mum is pm!! Although adults were indeed propped, there seems no way of doing this without evidence in the pose she is in.
Suggestions for strange pose?
Hands - imagine this woman's grief, lost a child then expected to "pose" for pic, dont think i'd want to hold to close!!! (might not let go again!!)
and her face would seem to be of someone biting their lip and rolling their eyes to avoid crying ()
hadn't thought of this aspect until someone suggest she might be pm!! sorry Maggie!

[Maggie.]

I just cannot stop looking at my copy of this photo - it's far more interesting than what is on the telly anyway 

We are all agreed - yikees  ..... but mum's left hand looks 'touched -up'.  My OH has been peering through his magifying eyeglass thingy at the original and reckons the left hand has been painted between the fingers and looks false.  Also note very dirty fingernails  .  She looks very dishevelled as well.  And I am still very uncomfortable with her eyes, which look even more surreal when viewed through OH's eyeglass thingy  .

Maggie

[chinakay]

The way she's sitting kind of sidewise in relation to the chair back...how would they prop her up??

Any chance of a high-res crop pf just mum & baby? From her hands to her head, at about 600dpi?

Cheers,
C

[jim1]

If you want to look at the gruesome side of it.Mother & baby would have to die at the same time,you would then have to get them to the photographers fully dressed and pose them in this position before rigormortis set in.You would also have to apply makeup as by this time ears,nose,lips & ends of fingers would be going black.With regard to the hand,I don't think prosthetics had advanced that far at this time.
Mother very much alive.
jim

[chinakay]

Good point.

Rigor mortis begins about 3 hours after death, so they'd have to move quickly. After about 72 hours it starts to relax, as enzymes break down the locked-up muscle tissue. This enzymatic process is actual decomposition, so they wouldn't be easy to handle and they wouldn't smell very salutary.

I'm with Jim...the mother may look a bit peculiar but at least she's not a corpse in the photo...

China

[Maggie.]

Despite me posing the question, I am inclined to agree........ but its made an interesting discussion topic  

Also if I am on the correct family there would be no money to spare for expensive PM sessions at the photographers with 2 dead bodies.  The more I look at the baby though, I think it is PM - it just looks so lifeless.

I will post a high res. pic later, and thanks for the interest.

Maggie

[Maggie.]

Scanned at 600 dpi

[Maggie.]

and another