Bird family Guernsey

[Nev Fouiller]

firstly, thank you Bill1 for the heads-up
and many thanks to you and Ceronn also for all this information
I shall be busy for sometime I think
Nev

[ceronn]

Bravo Bill !
A correction to post 42. Eliza born 1805 died May 1893 at Romsey, Vic. Australia, and there were 4 sons and 3 daughters, of whom a boy and a girl died in infancy. Five children came to Australia. William b.1839 had 3 daughters and 1 son. Alfred Nash b. 1845 had 3 sons and 2 daughters, of whom 1 son died in infancy. His wife was his first cousin Alice Bird b.1852. Arthur Augustus b. 1850 died unmarried in 1873. Matilda died before 1870, Sophia Eliza married Charles Beard in 1870 and had 12 children.
The Australian Dictionary of Biography [on line] has an entry for a grandson of William: Noel William Simpson b. Sydney Australia in 1907.
Thanks,  Ceronn.

[Bill1]

Nev, Cerron Mary Sue
re message #22 James Bird. James Bird surgeon, b 1802(husband of Susan, is listed in the 1861 census living at 6 upper Seymor st. Paddington,same listing has Sarah d in law, born Scotland ;Alfred James age 3 grandson and Agnes m age 2 months.If Alfred died in 1857 Sarah is then most likely James wife.
The 1871 census lists Sarah B as Head, wid,age 34 from Edmbro(Edinburgh) Scotland with Alfred age 13 and Agnes maud age 11.
1881 c has a Alfred James Bird listed as a cheesemonger in middlesex, a separate listing has Anes Maud and Sarah living in London Kensington, Kensington town dist 6a.There is a marriage in last quarter of 1857 James Bird to Sarah Robertson, Marylebone, London, Middlesex. James died between 1860 and 1871, I have not checked death register.
Bill

[Bill1]

T Nev and Cerron
re James Bird (#22 and 24)James ,born Feb 10 1802 died 4 June 1874 is the son of Edward Bird 1773-1848 and Margaret Bevan 1768-1835. He shows up on the 1861 English census for St John paddington dist. 6, as a 59 year old surgeonwith his wife Susan (Susanna Matilda Bird 1st cousin)Sarah d in law born in Scotland, Alfred- grandson age 3 and Agnes g da age 2 mo. They were living at 6 Upper Seymor St west.
James is listed in the 1871 census at age 69 as a widow living at 80 Seymor st St. John Paddington dist. 6
best regards
Bill

[ceronn]

Bill1
Thank you Bill. We are really expanding on the "brief pedigree" of the bird family. They seem to have lived a good life span! I have a note about a Fortescue Jones described as 'Shoemaker, water bailiff and clerk to the markets in Cardiff, grandson of John Bird, painter and guilder.'
The IGI has a marriage listed in 1809 for Sarah Bird and William Jones, St. Johns Cardiff.Maybe the youngest child of John Bird 1733-1815 did not die young as suggested in an earlier post.I have had trouble tracking down where I found this note.
The Bird descendants of William Knowles Bird are fairly easy to track via history books and the net as they were in the diplomatic service in a very interesting historical period.eg. Sir Hugh Stonehewer Bird [Francis Hugh William] KCMG OBE. His obituary in the Times 1973.
best regards
Ceronn.

[Bill1]

Hello Cerron
I have information on Hugh Stonhewer Birdand his family but little on Sarah b 1827 or Margaret (married to Robert Hendeweil). What I have on Elizabeth consists of her husbands name and the names of 9 children.
Anything you can add would be appreciated. Just as an aside where do you reside.

regards
Bill1

[ceronn]

Hello Bill,
I live in tropical North Queensland Australia. I thought you were Canadian, but now not sure.
Sarah b. 1827 died young, unmarried. Could not find Margaret but have not really tried. Elizabeth's husband John Grierson b. 16.1 1816 Bridgenorth U.K. had a carpet warehouse in Duke St. Cardiff.[Slaters Directory 1858-9]In 1864 they migrated to NZ.and settled near Christchurch. John, described as a lawyer, and active in Commercial circles died 26.1.1882. The Griersons are very big on family history and can be found at Ancestry.com. Gertrude Hannah Grierson Chr. 12.9.1855 St. Johns, was one of the first women to attend Christchurch University. She died in 1956 aged 101. A son, Owen Heathcote Grierson Merton, became a well known expatriate NZ painter, lived in Paris , died 18.1.1931 buried in London.A grandson Thomas Merton b. 1915 Paris died 1968 USA, a famous philosopher and Trappist Monk. Some of the Griersons established a large legal firm in NZ. Some later moved to Australia.
best regards
Ceronn

[Bill1]

Hello Cerron
I am indeed a Canadian living in Toronto, Ontario. Thanks for the information on the Griersons I will check Ancestry.com to see what I can find.

best regards
Bill

[Bill1]

Hello Cerron
I checked at the library today. The spelling for the marriage between Margaret Stonehewer Bird and Robert Bernhard Henderwerk.
Also Kate Lewis Bird is married to Lovell Drage, not Charles Drage.
regards
Bill