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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 July 08 07:05 BST (UK) »
Between 1813 and 1837 the IGI has 21 Buckland baptisms in Burnham.
Three to Thomas and Jane

Ellen Buckland
Christening:  23 JUL 1815   Burnham, Buckingham
Father:  Thomas Buckland
Mother:  Jane Buckland 

Eliza Buckland
Christening:  21 DEC 1817   Burnham, Buckingham
Father:  Thomas Buckland 
Mother:  Jane Buckland

Jane Buckland   
Christening:  08 JUL 1821   Burnham, Buckingham
Father:  Thomas Buckland 
Mother:  Jane Buckland 

The 1841 census has two Thomas Bucklands of equivalent age in Burnham. One with Martha and the other aged 45 with Hannah also aged 45 and 6 children aged between 14 and 1 though the IGI only shows 3 baptisms for Thomas and Hannah's children in Burnham.

Burial St Peter Burnham
21st July 1829
Jane Buckland aged 45

Hannah Buckland aged 50 was buried in 1850.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 July 08 07:09 BST (UK) »
I've just checked on Hannah Lothen, and she married a different Thomas Buckland (b. 1794) from Farnham Royal.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 July 08 09:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Valda

He was a busy man wasn't he?

I've found Martha's first marriage, so I now have her maiden name.

5 Jun 1826
ROGEST Thomas X, bach otp
MONK Martha X, spin otp
Witnesses: Ann Monk, John X Martin, Wm Child

The only other entry for ROGEST is Martha's marriage to Thomas Buckland. I don't need to go any further with him, but will try and discover if these two had any other children apart from Jane Elisabeth Rogest.

I'm still stuck on Richard Bucklin, born in about 1750-1760.

Any ideas?

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 07:23 BST (UK) »
Have you checked with the Bucks FHS for possibilities in their baptisms database other than the one which appears on the IGI in Stoke Poges?
Do you have an exact age at burial which will help you narrow down Richard's approximate birth year? What are the years 1750-1760 based on?
There is a Mary Buckland burial in Stoke Poges 16th February 1814 aged 67 but the indexes I have access to for burials only begin in 1813.

Where did Richard and Mary marry?

The IGI gives the candidate Richard Buckland baptised in Stoke Poges in 1750 and the marriage to Mary Harvey in 1771. The Bucks FHS marriage database is complete countywide up to 1837, so if another Richard Buckland/Bucklin married a Mary in Buckinghamshire they will be able to tell you.
The IGI's coverage of Stoke Poges baptisms ends in 1753 so you cannot tell from that source whether any baptisms occurred in Stoke Poges for the children of Richard and Mary nee Harvey.
The first child for Richard and Mary in Hitcham (just under 5 miles away from Stoke Poges) was in 1780. How have you ruled out this couple from Stoke Poges? Do they continue to have children in Stoke Poges after the Richard and Mary in Hitcham began to have their children baptised there from 1780 onwards?

Hitcham is close to the Berkshire/Buckinghamshire county border so if Buckinghamshire FHS databases draw a blank the next logical county to begin to search is Berkshire.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 10:59 BST (UK) »
I've ruled out Richard Buckland (1750-1829) and Mary nee Harvey as being the parents of the children born in Hitcham, as they had children in Stoke Poges up until 1787, which is 7 years after the first child was born in Hitcham in 1780.

My guess that Richard was born 1750-1760 is based on the date that the first child was born in 1780. I've guessed that he would have married between the age of 20 and 30. 

In the Bucks FHS baptisms database, there are 3 Richard Bucklands born vaguely within the right period in Bucks.


Richard Buckland born 1765 in Amersham, base son of Hannah Buckland. This Richard I believe died in 1851 at Preston Bisset aged 86. In the 1851 census he is living with his grandson James (born 1808), and his wife and child.
I guess he was too young to have a child in 1780, so he can also be ruled out.

Richard Buckland born 1736 in Langley Marish, son of John and Ann Buckland
I can find nothing on him.

Richard Buckland born 1745 in Burnham, son of Richard and Mary Buckland
I can find nothing on him.


On the burial database there is a Richard Buckland who died in 1799 at Stoke Poges. He may have been the son of Richard (1750-1829)

There is another Richard Buckland of Taplow Common, who died in 1840 at Farnham Royal aged 103, which means he was born in 1737, perhaps at Langley Marish.


There is no marriage on the database for Richard Bucklin and Mary.


In the Posse Comitatus of 1798 there is a Richard listed in Hitcham as an infirm labourer. I suppose this is the Richard I'm trying to trace. There is also a James, presumably his son (born 1782).

As you suggest, I'll start looking at Berkshire.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 August 08 17:27 BST (UK) »
Do you know if any of your Bucklands were from Romany stock.  I have lots of Bucklands moving around Berkshire, Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 07 September 08 09:26 BST (UK) »
I don't have any evidence that any of my BUCKLAND family were of Romany stock, although it was rumoured that there was 'Gypsy' blood in the familly. It was assumed though, that this was on the LEE side of the family, if at all. There is no evidence of this either. The LEE familly were from the Wansford/Peterborough area of Northamptonshire.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 07 September 08 10:30 BST (UK) »
I believe the Bucklands and the Lees were related on the Romany side and of course were 'well travelled'.  If you think it would help I could let you have anything on the Bucklands that I have.

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Re: Martha Rogest (Rogets) born in about 1805 in Bucks
« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 September 08 07:27 BST (UK) »
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Thanks. I would be grateful of anything you have, as my research has come to a standstill in about 1760.

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