Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern

[Paul]

Hi Paul 

If she was b. 1809, the 1822 marriage seems a bit early 


Bridget/Gadget

Born or Baptised 1809?

Paul/Paul

[Gadget]

Definitely baptised 13 Jan 1809 

[moe1939]

Hi Paul

I don't think so The 1841 census shows

Morris Jones 25 yrs old b 1816 (this has been rounded off from 27yrs old 1851 shows 37 b 1814. Ag. Lab. also Tyn Y Graig and Gwyddelwern.

Margaret Jones 30 yrs old 1811 (rounded from 33 shows 43 1808 christening may have been in 1809, I have a date 13 jan 1809 not sure if birth or christening) with the children listed in post above. Maybe the birth was 1808 worth a try.

I appreciate you getting back to me Paul.

Hi Moe, could this be him, Bridget. It's the only one I could see.

Llangwm. March 13 1822.
Morris Jones(x) of Llangwm. bachelor.
Margaret Jones(x) of this parish.
Witnesses. Owen Owens & Henry Hughes.

Could only see one baptism up to 1850.

Dec 1 1822 Sarah d/o Morris & Margaret Jones. Llangwm. Farmer.

Paul.

[Lloyd]

Gwyddelwern marriage June 28 1839.
Robert Jones. full age. bachelor. Farmer. abode, Pentre cwm, Cerrigydrudion. Father, Ellis. Occ, Farmer.
Martha Jones. full age. spinster. abode, Sh?? Druid. Father, William. Occ, Farmer.
Witnesses. Hugh Jones & G?Huh Jones.


Robert Jones was a son of Ellis Jones (1785-1842), of Pentre Cwm, which was a farm in Cwmpenanner in the parish of Cerrigydrudion, close to its border with Llanfor parish. Ellis was the youngest child of Robert and Margaret Jones of Pentre Cwm.

[castana1985]

Gwyddelwern marriage June 28 1839.
Robert Jones. full age. bachelor. Farmer. abode, Pentre cwm, Cerrigydrudion. Father, Ellis. Occ, Farmer.
Martha Jones. full age. spinster. abode, Sh?? Druid. Father, William. Occ, Farmer.
Witnesses. Hugh Jones & G?Huh Jones.


Robert Jones was a son of Ellis Jones (1785-1842), of Pentre Cwm, which was a farm in Cwmpenanner in the parish of Cerrigydrudion, close to its border with Llanfor parish. Ellis was the youngest child of Robert and Margaret Jones of Pentre Cwm.

Thank you so much for this information. You wouldn't know who Ellis married would you??

[Lloyd]

Ellis Jones married Gwen Roberts at Llanfor parish church on 29 December 1812. I don't know who Gwen was.

Their children were Robert (1813), Margaret (1814), John (abt 1816), Elinor (1819), Evan (1821), Jane (1823), Catharine (1825), Gwen (1828), Evan (1829), Susannah (1831), Ellis (1833) and David (1836) (it seems odd for there to be children born over a period of 23 years but it is correct).

Margaret and Susannah and their families emigrated to USA in 1851 and their mother Gwen (by then a widow) apparently went with them. Perhaps other members of the family went too.

How do you link to the family?

[Lloyd]

My last post was misleading: Margaret and her husband Hugh Hughes and children emigrated in 1851, Susannah emigrated  later (between 1851 and 1854) and married in USA, and their mother Gwen is said to have emigrated too, though the date is not known.

[castana1985]

Hi Lloyd

Robert (Ellis and Gwen's eldest) is my 3 x gt gf, who went onto marry Martha Jones. He was a publican and ran the Eagles Inn in Corwen for years.

His daughter, Jane Jones (b1846 in the pub at Corwen) married a William Pryce Evans, who came from Soughton Mountains.

The family story says that jane went to her wedding on the back of a donkey, which was only a few yards, as Corwen Church is literally just over the road from the pub!

How do you fit into the family? Whereabouts in the US, did they emigrate to? My cousin lives in the US?

Tracy

[JARICA]

Just to add another dimension to the Llanfawr/Llanfor ongoing dialogue, my gg grandmother Winifred Williams [nee Roberts] born there in 1849 was the daughter of William and Hannah Roberts of Llanfor
Last year I literally got in my car and allowed the sat nav. to take me there..... its incredibly small but there appears to be many Roberts living there since the early 1800s so I have found it incredibly difficult to 'trace' my Winifred's birthday cert and other ancestors details

Christine