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« Reply #99 on: Friday 04 July 08 11:56 BST (UK) »
Interesting this morning, when lots of cousins found, then a third wife, and her children shared the lot!
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« Reply #100 on: Friday 04 July 08 12:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks - but no spoilers please, some of us cant watch it till later in the day   ;)
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« Reply #101 on: Friday 04 July 08 14:25 BST (UK) »
Re todays programme (4 July) what was the value of the Higgins estate? I know they said £70,000 and that is what is on the BBC website but i am sure at the end one of the two beneficiaries said she was getting £95,000 - or have i got it wrong?

Anyone know?
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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« Reply #102 on: Friday 04 July 08 14:37 BST (UK) »
Sorry, got over excited!
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« Reply #103 on: Saturday 05 July 08 10:57 BST (UK) »
So far as I can see, no-one has yet mentioned the fees companies like these charge and, from the programmes I've watched, no mention has been made there either.

I do know someone however, who was quite recently, approached by a company such as that featured in the programme and their fee was .... 22% + VAT!!!

It would be interesting to know what the featured firm does charge

Of course people have the right not to 'sign up', but I can't help but feel the programme is little more than an advert for the company in question and in addition, wonder how many - particularly older people - would just hear the '.. you're entitled to his estate ...' without realising fully what they are signing up to and 22% + VAT is a helluva lot.   Also, I'm pretty sure this is something which comes under the Unsolicited Goods and Services Act and anyone approached by such a firm would do well to read the Act before signing anything.

My concern is, that having watched the programme people may not be made fully aware of the implications, will be influenced to 'sign up' without realising that, if they are entitled to all or part of an estate, that they don't actually have to give 22% + VAT of it to a third party.   Caveat emptor.


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« Reply #104 on: Saturday 05 July 08 11:19 BST (UK) »
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I can't help but feel the programme is little more than an advert for the company in question


the 3 programmes I've watched feature 2 companies and make frequent references to others 'in competition'

I really doubt that the BBC would want to be promoting one particular companies services ?

Regarding the 'Unsolicited Goods / Services Act' - I would be very sure that a company in this (regulated ?) line of business would be advising potential clients of their rights, and doubtless theres a cooling-off period as well as other 'get out' clauses ... indeed the company can effectively change its mind about offering you their services, so vice versa will be true ...

The bottom line is that people dont sign - at least 2 in the programmes so far ..... which means a bigger chunk of the estate, but a lot of work doing the research and due diligence documentation required to obtain probate .... if indeed one was capable of doing it ...
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« Reply #105 on: Saturday 05 July 08 12:13 BST (UK) »

The bottom line is that people dont sign - at least 2 in the programmes so far ..... which means a bigger chunk of the estate, but a lot of work doing the research and due diligence documentation required to obtain probate .... if indeed one was capable of doing it ...


Quite agree, Newfster.

The outlay to trace all the records, staff hours, database purchase, certificates, offices and everything connected....it's a business.  And they're in business to make a profit.  And a lot of businesses run at more than 22% in order to cover overheads.
If they didn't invest in all this, the money would revert to the government, and the recipient would NEVER KNOW.

Frankly I think people are just plain greedy.  100% of nothing is nothing,  which is what would be the result if the firms didn't invest in the tracing of potential heirs.

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« Reply #106 on: Saturday 05 July 08 14:09 BST (UK) »
I have this vision of one of them coming to the door and me providing them with the family tree.  Then I don't get a penny.   Too many cousins on both my sides for there to be any money for me.

I enjoy the programme.  It is meant to be entertainment after all.  Some people are taking it too seriously.

I do believe that there are lots of people on here who could set up a business like the Teviots, looking for older, smaller amounts.  It would be interesting

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« Reply #107 on: Saturday 05 July 08 18:09 BST (UK) »
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100% of nothing is nothing,

Thats exactly how we felt, we would never have found it without them anyway as we did not know of these relatives  existance.
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