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Re: Heir Hunters
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:27 BST (UK) »
Probably, but they wouldn't know about it in the first place to get that extra percentage. 

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« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:39 BST (UK) »
erm - they would - when F&F approached them !.

The episode I watched showed that they sometimes say who has died .....  and the programme spelled out that one of the beneficaries hadnt signed up ....
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« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:48 BST (UK) »
Suspect that a lots of the paperwork invloved in this sort of business is not shown on the programme (just saw it this morning by chance).

A few years ago I was approached by someone who asked if I could help find their grandmother's birth certificate/baptismal record. They had been unable to find anything after trying to order a birth certificate. Grandmother was one of three children born to a couple. Youngest child had a birth certificate but nothing for the 1st two children. All the local churches were tried (even other denominations) without luck. Grandmother's marriage certificate listed her father but also culdn't find a marriage certificate for them.
The reason for the research was that the family had been notified that a relative had died in Scotland without a Will and if they could prove the relationship they'd have a claim on the estate (forget the figure I was told but it was a lot of money for each of them even when divided among the family). The family had to supply birth, death and marriage certificates to prove their relationship (does that ever happen in Heir Hunters?). In the end only descendants of the youngest child could inherit the estate since the other 2 children couldn't be proven to be legitimate (Scottish law is different than rest of U.K.).
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Re: Heir Hunters
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 14:22 BST (UK) »
erm - they would - when F&F approached them !.


By this time F & F have done the 'donkey work' and underwritten the costs involved, not just getting the certs but also the hours and hours of work involved, and their database organisation etc. 

If the hadn't taken this chance and spent the money, then no-one involved would ever know that they had an inheritance to claim.  It would go to the state.

Me - I'd be just grateful to be contacted by them!  (fat chance though)
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« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 14:25 BST (UK) »
This morning was quite heart warming. One lady not only was in line for some money, but discovered a family of which she was not aware!
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Clulo - Staffs.,Warwickshire, Lancs.1780 -1950
Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
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Re: Heir Hunters
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 15:40 BST (UK) »
Reflecting on it, I suppose this is one of the only ways we're going to see any sort of genealogy on TV.

The other being the Who do you think you are celebrity approach.

TV has to have some element of drama or celebrity in it these days.

I don't think many will be interested in my great-great grandfather who died in Withington Workhouse, or his widow, who, along with her second husband, died of alcoholism.

On the other hand, WDYTYA should do Jane Asher (the actress and cake woman), as she's my 9th cousin once removed and I could sell the BBC my research at a special rate  ;D, and she has a  very interesting g-g grandmother (not my g-g grandmother >:( )
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Heir Hunters
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 16:18 BST (UK) »
am putting replies  on the other forum

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Re: "Heir Hunters"
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 16:43 BST (UK) »
We do have female staff, Frances is a case manager and has worked for us for more than 10 years. The only people more senior than her are the Partners (all Fraser's) and the 3 senior case managers who have all worked here for 25+ years. There are not many companies who have had female staff who have worked for the same company that long. We employ ex-police, or our internal research staff to be on the road and have just not had a female rise through the ranks or come from the police.

It is true that anyone can cut us out after we have done all the hard work but there is a lot that is going on off camera and after we find the heir, it is the service that people pay a % for.

Sorry it appears mercenary but it is a very competitive and we are working very fast in these cases. We have policies in place to make sure that the heir is treated with dignity but it often seems unfair when several people all find the same heir and fight over the inheritance, and a tragic family event of some one dying. If we get early wind of cases and can work at our own pace it is always preferable.

There is very little extra drama added, we really do work like this.

When we were "racing round London" we had sent Ewart to Westminster RO, he used to work there, then we sent Bob from the office by Taxi as it should have taken him 5 mins, to Camden RO. We cant sent the "tea boy" as we don't have one and he would hardly be the best person to break the news of someone's death to a family member, not sure if a man arriving in a suit dripping with sweat and dirt having ridden through London or a man in motor bike leathers would also be the best for the job.


 

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Re: "Heir Hunters"
« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 16:52 BST (UK) »
Personally didnt understand the 'mercenary' comment ...... you're running a business and offering a service, seems fine to me. Hardly 'ambulance chasing' stuff is it   :)

What sort of % of 'heirs' say no thanks to the service - wondered how you tried to manage the risk factor ?

One thing I noticed a couple of times was the commentary emphasing how the DoB obtained from a Death Cert was so invaluable - I wondered if these people are dying intestate and seemingly far removed from family, how an accurate DoB was thus provided by an Informant !


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