William Shepherd of Brotherton

[SallyF]

I've favoured this one as mine
William (Shephard)          14 April 1811        (born 13 Jan)

If the Ancestry tree is correct, one of mine would be the other William F...but who knows.... I need to see it for myself!!

Sally 

[Indigogirl]

Bit spooky!

I've got a tree on Ancestry - its the one where half the Shepards are accompanied by a question mark! A bit like a Shepherds crook come to think of it.

I know as far as I can that William b 1811 married Hannah Wadsworth 24/10/1835 and their daughter Mary was the one that married Edward Edwards.

Are you thinking that Sarah was Williams sister?

My best guess at this point is that Wms parents are the Wm and Sarah Taylor.

Side issue - barring my Welsh connection my ancestors are from same places as yours. I even have Suffolk in my direct line which isn't listed 

[Indigogirl]

Have you looked here?

http://www.brotherton.org.uk/html/surname_index.html

[Indigogirl]

I've just had a look at an Ancestry tree with the Furnish/Furnis/Furnace connection.(lorelleshepherd?)

I guess this is the one you've seen too.

Hundreds of Sheps - the ones with the atypical names like Tabitha etc

I think these might be yours then.

[Indigogirl]

That tree hasn't been modified since Sept 2006. Its unlikely there'll be a reply I suspect.

It looks like the Furnace Shepherd is a union between 2 families. There;s even a Tabitha Smith marrying a Furnace and creating the Tabitha Shepherd down the line

[SallyF]

Hi again.

I think I just broke Rootschat 

I posted at the same time as your latest post and then it went all freezey on me!

When I tried to pm you it told me I had already posted to you, so if I have then sorry for repeating myself!!

I was just saying that I think the William F probably more mine - but I'll bet they're cousins or something!!  All just speculation until proven one way or the other.

Anyway, for now, I've got to go to bed, early start tomorrow.  I'll bet I can't sleep now, what with William's and William F's going round in my head!

I'll be back again tomorrow after work - last day for the summer!

Goodnight

Sally

[Indigogirl]

No pm's and no duplicate info.

I think it froze as I was posting too - I had same thing happen !

Also my last day at work for the summer tomorrow - and not before time

Tomorrow it is

Di

[SallyF]

Hello again Di,

Sorry for delay in getting back – life, it just gets in the way sometimes!!

Well, I can’t say I’m much further forward with the Shepherd family – so I decided to try and corroborate the tree from Ancestry, but I’m finding it inconclusive. 

This tree lists Robert as William and Sarah’s first child, and I can find an extracted entry on the IGI for him, born 24 March 1794, baptised 31 March 1794, parents William Shepherd and Sarah Furnace, but the location is Sherburn In Elmet.  I know it’s not that far away, but seems a little odd, unless the actual records give a bit more info than the indexes.  Certainly, the Brotherton indexes don’t give Sarah’s surname at all.  Having said that I can’t find a marriage for William Shepherd and Sarah Furnace in Brotherton, either (or Pontefract, which was more usual) so maybe they did migrate in.

Why, oh why, weren’t there proper censuses in those days – much easier to confirm movement etc………

I wonder how the Ancestry tree owner came to this conclusion, especially as I tend to agree with their version of the next 6 children, up to one of the Mary’s, though it’s difficult to decide which one with their births being so close together.  Even the occupations of the 2 William’s (waterman and labourer) don’t seem to help much in this case, either.

No….I think I’m stumped, just going round in circles.  Perhaps I’ll have to have a trip up to see the actual records, to see if anything else can be gleaned from them, though when that might be I’m not sure.

Well, more pondering to do.....

Sally 

[Indigogirl]

Hi Sally,

Do you have anything in PR's that would corroborate the marriage of William b 13/1/1811 to Hannah Wadsworth?( I'd like to eliminate the other possible Hannah Deplidge if poss)

I guess a maiden name on birth or chrst record for their children is too much to hope for 
(I have them together as family in 1851.) 

William Shepherd b: 13 Jan 1811 Brotherton, Yorkshire m: 24 Oct 1835 Brotherton, Yorkshire d: 20 Dec 1856 Ferrybridge, Yorkshire ( Possible Father: William Shepherd  Mother: Sarah Taylor)

m  Hannah Wadsworth b: 20 Oct 1814 Brotherton, Yorkshire d: 05 Apr 1858 Castleford, Yorkshire

    Sarah Ann Shepherd b: abt 1838 Brotherton, Yorkshire
    George Shepherd b: abt 1840 Brotherton, Yorkshire
    Mary Shepherd b: abt 1842 Brotherton, Yorkshire
   John Shepherd b: abt 1845 Fairburn, Yorkshire
   Hannah Shepherd b: abt 1847 Fairburn, Yorkshire
    Emma Shepherd b: abt 1850 Fairburn, Yorkshire

Brotherton/Fairburn/Sherburn - plus working up and down the canal - I thinks its a real possible for either or both Wm Shephds. Altho its a little odd i agree.