WHITTLE family fairground connection

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Pure genius, Deb

Should have thought of that myself, because I have some HARLIN / ARLINs in my own line.

George Halloway
Mar q 1866
Uxbridge, Middlesex
vol 3a p 23

Looks very promising. Will probably try that one.

Edwina

[deb usa]

Hi Edwina

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hope he's the one , else I might have to send you money to recoup your losses 

BTW ...I have seen an EMMA HARROWAY b c 1842 Uxbridge ...I wonder if that is a mistranscription from the original ? Take a look and see what you think!

I am off to the beach until Friday ... will be back then.

Take care

deb

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You are funny, Deb  . Be careful now, I have your written statement about reinbursement here  .

Enjoy the beach. The rain here is hammering steadily, and this is the second day now, so the beach is somewhere I shall NOT be going. Have fun.

Thanks very much for the suggestions.

Edwina

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can't find a marriage yet...but here may be some of the children's birth registrations;

James John Alloway;June q 1851 Uxbridge vol 3 p 446

ummm I thought I would find more ... can't see them yet either 

deb

Just re-visiting some old e-mail contacts from 2003, Deb, plus re-reading this thread. Someone else has already claimed James John. His parents were John ALLAWAY and Ann BROWN. Will probably add to this post later in the week. It is in danger of turning into an ALLOWAY thread 

For any new readers - Welcome!  The idea is to try and see if George WHITTLE and Emma ALLAWAY definitely had a son, George, who went into the fairground business.

We know a George WHITTLE married a Lavinia SMITH in 1889 and became involved with the fairground, but I am trying to find out if he was definitely the same George WHITTLE, born 1867, who was also known as George ALLOWAY / ALLAWAY.

I'm sure the saga will continue   
Best wishes,

Edwina 

[pezzar]

Hi

sorry i've been gone so long, i have found out my grandfather was married twice, first to Alice Agnis Cheeseman then to Mary Ann Scally born Rosscommon Ireland (my grandmother)

My grandfather Thomas William Whittle's mother was Jane Sedgewick later Jane Whittle (my sister is named after her). My father and aunt believe my great grandfather was either William or George. Problem is with that era you never knew your grandparents that well to know their full names i suppose. Hope this helps

Perry Whittle

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Hello again Perry,

I thought perhaps you had changed your mind about doing family history - but you were obviously researching... some good stuff.

Do you know the website: <http://freebmd.rootsweb.com> ? Very useful for finding ancestors on the GRO records indexes.

Have just looked at it and found the following:
Marriages Mar 1902
Alexander  Ernest Hembest   Chertsey    2a   96    
Potter    Ethel         Chertsey    2a   96   
Sedgwick    Jane         Chertsey    2a   96    
Whittle    George         Chertsey    2a   96

Each of these people has his or her marriage entered on volume 2, Chertsey registration district, page 2 for the 3 month period Jan - Mar 1902. In this case we can be pretty sure that Jane and George belong together on the same marriage certificate, I think! 

If you look on the freeBMD site it tells you how to order the certificate from GRO if you want it (costs £7). The certificate will give their address and father's name and occupation.

We seem to be collecting George WHITTLEs on this thread. I'll read through everything again tomorrow to try and think whether any of them could be the same person. 

Best wishes,

Edwina

[s whittle]

A friend has just alerted me to this posting...

I am a Great grandson of George Alfred Whittle who was married to Lavinia Smith.

They had a son called George Alfred (known as Alfie Whittle) who was my Dad's Dad.

Myself and my family are still travelling showpeople today, travelling the South of England.

I know that Stanley Whittle was one of my grandfather's brothers and his descendants are still travelling members of the Showmans Guild as are most of George and Lavinia's childrens families,

The Whittle family yard was at Blackwater near Camberley, this yard was sold during 1960's. After the yard was sold, my father's part of the family moved to Chertsey, where I was born.

I will ask my father for more info and dates when I catch up with him at another fair and will share my findings.

Sheldon Whittle

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Hello Sheldon,

Thank you very much for this!   

I'll wait and see what information you find out from your dad.

Edwina

[NM]

Hello,

I have been researching the WHITTLE/HICKEY connection as part of my research into the MORLEY family tree.

Information on The Whittles:
Edward WHITTLE born C1750 in Melford married Mary ? and had a son called Robert WHITTLE b. C1776 in Melford Suffolk.

Robert WHITTLE married Martha ? and had 3 children:
Samuel WHITTLE b. C 1815 Newton, Suffolk d. 2 Nov 1853
James WHITTLE b. C 1818
Maria WHITTLE b. C1820 d. 4th May 1828

Samuel WHITTLE (1859 labourer) married Elizabeth BOREHAM and had 5 children:

George WHITTLE b. 31st March 1831
George WHITTLE b. C1836 d. 29th march 1839
Elijah WHITTLE b. 21st Dec 1839 Stanstead, Suffolk
George WHITTLE b. 24th March 1845
George WHITTLE b. 2nd July 1851


Elijah WHITTLE (Labourer)(b. 21st Dec 1839 in Stanstead Suffolk) married Sarah BRUCE and had 9 children:

Susannah WHITTLE b. 1st June 1862 Glemsford, Suffolk
Rebecca WHITTLE b. 18th July 1864 Stanstead, Suffolk
Eliza WHITTLE b. C1866 Stanstead, Suffolk
Thomas WHITTLE b. 8th March 1868 Stanstead, Suffolk
kate WHITTLE b. C1871 Wandsworth, Surrey (entered as a servant on the 1891 Census).
James WHITTLE b.C 1873 Wandsworth, Surrey
Ada WHITTLE b C1876 Putney, London
George WHITTLE b C1878, Putney, London
Sarah WHITTLE b. C 1897 Kew, Surrey

This is the information I have on the Hickey's:

Martin HICKEY (occupation Bootmaker) b. C1841 in Ireland married Eliza O'DONNELL.

Their son was James HICKEY b.22nd Feb 1851 in Leeds.
James met (although not sure if married) Rebecca WHITTLE c1887 (previously Rebecca Bradley. She had previously been married to Henry Inkerman BRADLEY and had my Great Grandmother Augusta Eliza BRADLEY in 1882). In 1882 Rebecca lived at 9 Garden Row, Mortlake.

James HICKEY was a boilermaker/riveter who started a business called James Hickey and sons in Sandycombe Road, Richmond in 1881. In 1891 they lived at 21 Alexandra Road and Rebecca WHITTLE is a laundress. In 1892 James Hickey worked as a riveter on Tower Bridge and rented/then purchased 14.5 acres of land in Cheshunt (formally Brickfields) including the boileryard and a house in Churchfields Path called Ingleside.

James HICKEY and Rebecca WHITTLE had 4 children:
Albert HICKEY b C1888
James HICKEY b. C1890
William HICKEY b. C1891
John Bernard HICKEY (aka Mike) b C1893.Married Clara FRASER  28th July 1919 in St Lukes Church Richmond.