WHITTLE family fairground connection

[CV-S]

Hi Shelley Teres

Just to say, It's great you found this site and I also hope we can collaborate.
However, I fear this is getting away from the meaning of this thread and George and Jane weren't the 'Fairground Connection,' so I've sent you a personal message.

How about we collaborate here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=530065.msg3845260

I'm very exited to here from you

[wayne whittle]

Hello all
My grandad was George Alfred Whittle he was a showman he lived with his family in Blackwater
He was sent with his brother to live with his cousins in Islington so he could go to school, its sead they used to swim in the canel there (must be a connection to past family history) he told me that his cousins from Fulham would come and visit his family when the opened with the fair each year at Richmond (must be a connection with the boiler makers).

I was sent to boarding school in yateley where my teacher (who was from Weybridge) told me I must be one of the Whittles from weybridge (another connection).

We all come from George Alfred Whittle and Lavina Smith who met in Uxbridge and married, George coming from Canal people and Lavina coming from  half Showman and half Gypsies (as I am Told), their marriage and life started the Whittle family Fairground as George being a great tradesman would work for ladowners doing blacksmirth and repair work in exchange for his family having a fair on the land.

Typical male Whittle christian names are John, Lewis, Alfred, and George, if you have any of these names in your family history your probably a descendant.

Many of the Smith family are also still Showman
traveling in the South of England

[CV-S]

Okay, well this is what I have:

George Whittle - born 1902 in Weybridge - a boilermaker. Lived in Weybridge.

He had brothers with first/second names John and Alfred.

It seems like Perry - a descendant of George's brother Thomas, has suggested the families are connected.

I can't find a connection. I believe George's father was another George Whittle - the brother of Rebecca Whittle - who has been mentioned before. She lived in Richmond with a boilermaker.

But that family can be quite certainly traced to Suffolk labourers....

[wayne whittle]

Morning

Maybe so, however I think your best look to the Fulham and Richmond connections as that appears to be the part of the family who settled down long ago.

like I have said before My Dad has also confirmed that the South London coucsins visited when we were in the area (Richmond)

There were also a couple who retired to the Isle of Wight and lived at Wooton Bridge.

Your familey have the right christian names for Whittles not forgetting the rest of the familey lived around vaginia Water, chertsey and Blackwater post war times, and at Blackwater after.

More digging is needed for you as I think your familey fractured off not long after the Lavina Smith days

[CV-S]

Hello Wayne

This is very interesting; as you say more digging is needed.

I thought that George Whittle (1911 census says born circa 1880 in Putney) was the son of Elijah and Sarah Whittle (both born Suffolk, died Richmond).

But there are just too many coincidences with the fairground family to be ignored.

I'll read over all these posts and see if there might be a connection.
If the fairground family (Lavinia Smith) can be traced to Chertsey then that would be enough to convince me.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

[CV-S]

Hi

Can anyone find George Whittle, husband of Lavinia in the 1911 census?

In 1911 my ancestor George Whittle was 31 years old.
In 1901 Lavinia's husband George Whittle was 21 years old.

Maybe the same person? I don't know.
When did Lavinia die? Is it possible they divorced or split up? It's not unheard of.

[wayne whittle]

George and Lavinia married in 1889

There are many Georges and George Alfreds

His farther was also George Whittle a boatman

So you see another son of the first George could of named his son George after his farther, and so on so forth

Boiler knowledge and skills would have probably come from the traction engines that were used to haul the Fairgroung equipment.

Thank god I'm called Wayne!

Although theres nothing stopping my boys from calling their sons George Alfred

Also in answer to George Alfred the 4th, your grandad Lewis was the brother who went to stay with the Whittles in Islington to go to school with my grandad George Alfred Whittle commonly known as Alf Whittle, his wife was sybil

[CV-S]

The problem I have is that George and Lavinia had a son George Whittle, born in about 1891.

My George Thomas Whittle was born in 1902. So they can't be brothers - although if he was known as 'Alf' maybe they had another son called George who they really called George.

Is that possible?

[wayne whittle]

No his name was George Alfred

his letters always said G.A Whittle

what about if his farthers other son had a son called George?