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WISDOM SMITH
« on: Wednesday 09 July 08 13:22 BST (UK) »
I have recently come across the following newspaper report about a WISDOM
SMITH. It was dated Tuesday 13th September 1853 and relates to his then
recent wedding to an AMY HAYWOOD:-

Marriages -


"Sept 5, at the Abbey Church, Bourn, bu the Rev. Walker Scott, Wisdom
Smith to Amy Haywood. Both parties are gipsies, and notwithstanding
their advanced age, they tripped gaily on 'the light fantastic' to the
fiddle and the tambourine. The buxom bride is in her 66th year, and
she is the third wife Wisdom has led from the altar".


I have checked on FreeBMD and there was a marriage on that date shown
for them.  If Any was Wisdom's 3rd wife - does anyone know who the
rest were??


I can't find a census return showing an Amy & Wisdom around that date,
but there is an entry for a Wisdom Smith on the 1861 census with him
being married to a Hannah and on the 1881 census there's a Wisdom who
is married to a Sarah in Lincs.


Can anyone solve this mystery please.


Many thanks


Murden - Warwickshire & Nottinghamshire
Bower - Nottinghamshire (mainly Newark)
Crowder - Mansfield Nottinghamshire & Devon
Price - Newark,  Nottinghamshire
Ingleton - Skillington, Lincolnshire
Smith - All parts of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire & Lincolnshire especially Wisdom Smith, Robert & Evening Smith

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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 16:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

1851
Wisdom Smith head mar 66 gipsey
b Northampton
Elizabeth wife 65 b Oxon
Letitia dau 24 b Kiddington Oxon
Isabel dau 16 b Burfield oxon
Cornelius grandson 9 b Witney Oxon

according to IGI there are various submitted entries for their children stating that the mother is Elizabeth Gentle.

I wonder if this is 'your' Wisdom?

will search further

deb :)
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Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 19:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb

Many thanks for your reply, however, I've already checked out that connection and unfortunately it's not 'my' Wisdom. The dates and parents don't match up. 'My' Wisdom was born in 1804, Twyford Leicestershire, but thank you for trying, it's greatly appreciated.

Best Wishes

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Murden - Warwickshire & Nottinghamshire
Bower - Nottinghamshire (mainly Newark)
Crowder - Mansfield Nottinghamshire & Devon
Price - Newark,  Nottinghamshire
Ingleton - Skillington, Lincolnshire
Smith - All parts of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire & Lincolnshire especially Wisdom Smith, Robert & Evening Smith

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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 19:41 BST (UK) »
Ooooooooops, that last message should have read 5th June, 1796, Twyford Leicestershire. Parents Hannah & Wisdom.

Think I've spent too much time on this today.

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Murden - Warwickshire & Nottinghamshire
Bower - Nottinghamshire (mainly Newark)
Crowder - Mansfield Nottinghamshire & Devon
Price - Newark,  Nottinghamshire
Ingleton - Skillington, Lincolnshire
Smith - All parts of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire & Lincolnshire especially Wisdom Smith, Robert & Evening Smith


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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 19:45 BST (UK) »
have you tried the romanygenes website?

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 19:56 BST (UK) »
Hi

1851
Wisdom Smith head mar 66 gipsey
b Northampton
Elizabeth wife 65 b Oxon
Letitia dau 24 b Kiddington Oxon
Isabel dau 16 b Burfield oxon
Cornelius grandson 9 b Witney Oxon

according to IGI there are various submitted entries for their children stating that the mother is Elizabeth Gentle.

I wonder if this is 'your' Wisdom?

will search further

deb :)

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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 20:06 BST (UK) »
There were quite a few Wisdom Smiths. And at least two Wisdom and Hannah Smiths.

Its easy to get confused and I worked them all out only to have yet another PC crash and Im not sure how much is salvageable, and am still in the process of rescuing data, ... so at this moment in time cant be much help. But I WILL be back.

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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 20:15 BST (UK) »
A very kind person has sent me some information which seems to have answered my question.  

Wisdom Smith (b 1796), son of William (1763 - 1839, Steeple Claydon, Bucks) & Hannah was married to an Esther (Smith) on 10th May 1813, South Witham, Lincolnshire according to the original register.

He then married  a Maria Elet on 1st July 1818, Saltby Leicestershire ;

then in 1853 by Amy Haywood - quite a collection!!!


 
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Murden - Warwickshire & Nottinghamshire
Bower - Nottinghamshire (mainly Newark)
Crowder - Mansfield Nottinghamshire & Devon
Price - Newark,  Nottinghamshire
Ingleton - Skillington, Lincolnshire
Smith - All parts of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire & Lincolnshire especially Wisdom Smith, Robert & Evening Smith

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Re: WISDOM SMITH
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 20:42 BST (UK) »
The Maria Ellet you refer to was Maria Elliott. (its not a transcription error, it was written down wrong originally).

The Haywoods turn up again with another Rom family. Think it was the Newberrys.

Will look it all up tomorrow when Ive finished uploading everything again.

Oh and Ive just noticed.... Not William & Hannah  of Steeple Claydon, it was Wisdom Smith and Hannah Smith. they married at Bletchington Oxon 03.03.1782.