Islington parish - but which one?

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Interesting that in 1871, the Deas Family had an 11 month old 'Elizabeth Carter Deas' .... who has no Birth Index, but the son Hugh does !

I wonder - whaddja fink Anna 

Hmmmm... yes, odd that she's born in Finsbury when all the others were born St Pancras.  And I wonder whether she's really a daughter of 44 yr old widow Janet (as she's said to be...)

Anna

[avm228]

So: when was Janet Deas widowed?

Per 1861 her husband was David Deas aged 33 (b abt 1828) Scotland

RG9/116/55/31

So this looks like his death:

David DEAS aged 41, Dec 1869 West London 1c 22

[Necromancer]

Well, well, Mr Deas was indeed a David .... - do you think that Lizzie was doing the oft-used trick to hide illegitimacy ?

1861- RG9/116; Folio: 55; Page: 31 - Camden (still College Street)

Lithographic Printer (which the lads were in 1871, befor taking up the Pianoforte in 1881 )

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The plot thickens: didn't put 2 and 2 together regarding Elizabeth Carter Deas, the age would be right.  A very interesting thought!  Are you saying that Lizzie changed her surname?  In which case where do I go from here. HELP!

I have been trying to find the connection between Elizabeth and The Deas as she spent a long time with them.

William Deas was a witness at her wedding but as yet I haven't managed to connect him with the home of Janet Deas.

[rosie99]

Hi

Doesn't solve the problem but there is an obituary

Glasgow Herald Oct 12th 1869

42 College Street West Camden Town, london 7th inst
David Deas Lithographic Printer age 41
late of Edinburgh

Rosie

[Necromancer]

Ref William Deas - witness.

Well, theres a William b1870 in Marylebone ..


but this has to be more than a coincidence ..

1871 - RG10/199; Folio: 45; Page: 32 - Pancras
151, Grove Street

William E Deas 36  Head PIANOFORTE MAKER born Scotland
Jane C Deas 26  Wife Scotland

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1881 - RG11/223; Folio: 6; Page: 5; - Pancras, Kentish Town
33 Leverton St West Side
 
William Deas 47  Head Pianoforte Maker Edinburgh
Jane Deas 37  Wife Blairathol

Elizabeth Deas 9  dau London
Robert Deas 6  son London
William Deas 2  son London
John Dear    2 mons son London

[rosie99]

Hi

IGI has a marriage for a David Deas and Janet Fraser 17th December 1849 at Edinburgh

freebmd has a birth reg for Elizabeth Fraser Deas June qtr 1871 Pancras 1b 30

Rosie

added  I think this Elizabeth is more likely to be William and Janes daughter

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Wow, what a lot of information to take in!

Any idea where the name Willis comes from if we think that Elizabeth is in fact a closet Deas?

Rosemary