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Islington parish - but which one?
« on: Monday 07 July 08 15:42 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the birth record of Elizabeth Willis who was born in Islington between 1869-1871.  As I haven't had any luck with certificates that I have ordered, I have decided to go to London to see if I can have any luck actually going through the Parish records.  My problem is which Parish?  I presume Islington was divided into several parishes and I wonder if some kind person could tell me what they were and where I am likely to find the records.

The only information I have on Elizabeth is from her wedding certificate.  She married Alexander Joseph Turpie on 5.12.1896 at Childs Hill, Hendon.  Her address was given as 18 Keller Street, Kentish Town, St Pancras.  Her occupation was as an upholsterer.  Her father name was David Willis, deceased. pianoforte maker.  I would love to find out who her Mother was.

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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 July 08 15:49 BST (UK) »
have you found her on the 1871/81 census ?

I cant see her on the 1881 - nor a David W, Pianoforte Maker, so he may have died when she was very young ...   ???
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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

Who were the witnesses on her marriage certificate - could they have been relatives?

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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:08 BST (UK) »
I have only found a possiple on the 1881 census.  It is Lizzie Willis, visitor to the home of Janet Deas, widow, 42 College Street, Camden Town.  William Deas was a witness at Elizabeth's wedding.  Janet came from Scotland so I am wondering if Elizabeth's family came from there as well.

The other witnesses at the wedding are relatives of her husband, which I am aware of.

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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:11 BST (UK) »
Assuming that you are looking for Church of England parishes Islington had four in 1860.

Holy Trinity Cloudsley Square
St John Upper Holloway
St Mary
St Paul Canonbury

These must not of course be confused with the civil parishes (or districts) used for BMD registrations and censuses of which there were twelve.  See

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/#I
 
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Living in Berkshire from Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry I forgot.

The parish registers should be at the LMA (London Metropolitan Archives) and you will of course be looking for a baptism.

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Living in Berkshire from Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dog rose on Monday 07 July 08 16:08 BST (UK)
I have only found a possiple on the 1881 census.  It is Lizzie Willis, visitor to the home of Janet Deas, widow, 42 College Street, Camden Town.  William Deas was a witness at Elizabeth's wedding.  Janet came from Scotland so I am wondering if Elizabeth's family came from there as well.

The other witnesses at the wedding are relatives of her husband, which I am aware of.

Thank you

Two of Janet Deas' sons were pianoforte makers in 1881, which may be a further indication of a link with Elizabeth's family (given her father's occupation).

The 1881 reference is: RG11/207/36/19

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:30 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Willis (single, 20, upholstress) was still boarding with Janet Deas at 120 College Place, Camden Town, St Pancras in 1891 - her birthplace given as London St Pancras:

RG12/130/26/46

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Islington parish - but which one?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 July 08 16:36 BST (UK) »
Interesting that in 1871, the Deas Family had an 11 month old 'Elizabeth Carter Deas' .... who has no Birth Index, but the son Hugh does !

RG10/232; Folio: 24; Page: 41 - Pancras  ... Camden Town

I wonder - whaddja fink Anna  :P


Also, wonder what Mr Deas name was ....
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