McLEAN/McCLAN

[Shane H]

Not sure about Robert Dawson - this is the first time I've come across his name, but I assume still current as most websites tend to stop working in due course if not maintained.

[idlecat]

I’ve had the copy of the death cert for Charles Macklin husband of Sophia. He is commonly recorded as b. 1780 and died 1852 in Buntingford. I suspected this incorrect . The certificate proves it, he was a surgeon and is found on the census. So can discount those dates now.

[Amanda G]

Evening,

I would be interested in joining in with the DNA of this family as I have been working on some Matches for a friend descended from Crissany who married John Welch and I think belongs here along with another sibling Henry both Baptised together in Sandy, Bedfordshire 1813

Kind regards
Amanda

[Shane H]

Hi Amanda

Sorry, are you saying Crissany is a Macklin/McClean? I've not come across her before, in any event.

I'm aware of James Macklin, son of Samuel and Susan Macklin (late Whitfield) as having been baptised at Sandy in 1810, but I think Susan then died and Samuel remarried to Theodosia Harding at Great Paxton (fairly nearby) in 1811, with their first child, William, baptised at Great Paxton in 1812.

I've also got it that William Welch married Sophia Macklin, daughter of Charles Macklin and Sophia (late Hane) on 5 Dec 1827 at Baldock, Herts (again, not very far away). That's my only Welch reference so far.

Shane

[Shane H]

Hi Amanda

I see now on familysearch: Chrissany and Henry Maclean both baptised at Sandy 26 Dec 1813, children of Charles and Sophia.

Shane

[Amanda G]

Hi Shane,

Yes I believe William Welch was a sibling of John Welch, John was a twin with Sarah

The DNA gets very interesting!
Sophia McLean I have one DNA match showing but most are from Charles 1806

Kind regards
Amanda

[Shane H]

Thanks, Amanda

I've now found some correspondence I had with Ruth MacDonald in 2009, within which she mentions that she believed Tobias Smith, a 19 years-old gypsy executed for horse-stealing in 1792, to be a cousin of Samuel Macklin, son of Charles and Silence (formerly Smith). See: https://dn720306.ca.archive.org/0/items/bim_eighteenth-century_an-account-of-tobias-smi_tattershall-thomas_1792/bim_eighteenth-century_an-account-of-tobias-smi_tattershall-thomas_1792.pdf

The RTFHS have a reference to 'Charles Macklane' as a witness to the marriage of William Smith and Jemima Gray
 at Yelling, Hunts, in 1802: “Both of the people called Gypsies having pitched their tent in this parish during the time their banns were published on three several Sundays”

Also, at https://www.british-genealogy.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-16366.html: "......Jeremiah Boswell b.cir 1832 Babworth Notts was the son of Elijah Boswell by one of his wives Alice Smith (he also married her sister Delizanna). Alice and Delizanna were reputedly the daughters of a William Smith and a Jemima Gray - I have not yet been able to work out who exactly they were. There was also another sister, Charlotte Smith....Elijah Boswell was supposed to have travelled the Midlands with one William Gray. This was the same William Gray who married Tabitha and had a liaison with her sister Bethania...."

Robert Dawson previously mentioned has written a book on the Smith genealogy, so that may be worth getting or he contacted.

All sorts of connections....

Shane

[Amanda G]

Hi Shane,

Many thanks for all this information, I'll read through it over the weekend

I do have the Tobias booklet but it's really interesting that Ruth thought he might be a Cousin as the same Smith people are also in the DNA tree I am working on.

In another tree I have some unexplained Smith DNA matches with someone descended from William Smith and Salome Smith through Joseph 1832 and Sophia 1841 so my intention is to try to solve that at some point but I have a lot of Smith's to sort through.

I think Jemima Smith has other children unknown to me as yet.

I have quite a few Gray's to follow up on but no DNA available to work with.

I'll see if I can find Robert Dawson's Smith book and I think there might be another one written by Richard who sometimes posts on here.

Many thanks
Kind regards
Amanda

[idlecat]

Interesting. I have the Welches in my tree, William, Mary, Sarah John Priscilla and James. Parents Thomas Welch 1766 and Mary Shaw 1768. I’ve been recently working on this family but I hadn’t spotted that Saney was married to this John Welch.  Thanks for the info … more to work on.
Sophia Haines was not I think born in Wiltshire in 1780. Mother Elizabeth. I have a death for this poor little soul in August of the same year to Elizabeth mother.
It’s more ikely that she belongs to the  Huntingdonshire Haines/ Haynes … a family which I have come across elsewhere.
I’ve had the death cert back for Charles Maclean 1800 who has been attributed to death in Hemel Hempstead 1839. This cert is for a 27 year old . I can’t decipher profession looks like Type founder.
I’ll do more research this weekend whilst I am away again.