Honor Elizabeth Tingman nee Ward - Death

[benzon]

Family rumour had it that my grandfather's half sister emigrated to Canada and possibly subsequently moved to the US.  Thanks now to the on line records on Ancestry.com and Ancestry.ca I have been able to piece together some of her story.  There are still many queries but I would like to find her death with doesn't appear to be on the US SS Death Index.

I believe she finally settled in Worcester, Mass. as I have a border crossing entry for one of her sons from Canada in 1943 which quotes emergency parole.  She would have been 72 at the time so perhaps her death was around this time.

Name - Honor Elizabeth Tingman nee Ward born Hertfordshire, England 1871, married in Toronto in 1890, husband died in 1909 and she would appear from one of her sons attestation papers to have been in New York prior to 1914.

Any help greatly appreciated

Thanks
Denise

[KathMc]

There would not be an SSDI in 1943. That started much later. In this case, it might help to start with the sons and work backward from there. If you find one of the sons on the SSDI, you can try to get his obit from the local public library and find either living relatives, or some hint of when or where his mom died. It could be a long shot, but worth the effort.

Kath

[benzon]

Hi Kath,

Thanks for that.  I thought as much.  I have found three SSDIs on Ancestry for two sons and, the other I think is a grandson.  They actually seem quite costly to me do you actually know what sort of information they contain.  Also, as I am in the UK, could you take a moment to explain the obituaries/how your local public library system works.

Years of experience with UK research but still learning on all this overseas stuff.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers
Denise

[KathMc]

No problem. I have never ordered the SS forms. I always start with the obits. If the SSDI lists the town they were living in, which sometimes it does, I find the library online by googling "name of town public library." More often than not they have websites these days. I then send off an email:

"I was wondering what the procedure for obtaining obituaries is. I am looking  for the obituary for John Smith, who died on 9 July 1922 in your town."

Most often, they will send the obit to me via email. If you need any help finding a library let me know.

Kath

[Genealiza]

I ordered a copy of the Social Security Application of my great aunt, before the huge price increase.  The date of the application is April 7, 1942 and asks for the following information:

1.  Given name, middle name, last name
2.  address                                   3. full name given at birth
4.  age             5. date of birth     6. place of birth
7. father's full name                     8. mother's full name
9. sex        10. race           11. ever before applied for
                                               (a) Social Security Account
                                               (b) Railroad Retirement Account
12. business name and address of employer
13. date signed            14. name as usually written

[benzon]

Thanks Kath and genealiza.  Doesn't look like I will find any more info on a SS application, if there is one, that I dont already know.  Kath I will goggle the public library in Worcester, Matt ss I think Honor and at least one of her sons died there.

Many thanks
Denise

[shellyesq]

There are a lot of Worcester city directories on Ancestry.com (nearly every year from 1909 to 1965) , and I didn't find a Tingman in any of them, nor an Honor Tingman or Elizabeth Tingman in any of the Massachusetts directories available there.  Is there any chance she remarried?

[benzon]

Hi shellyesq

I originally thought perhaps she might have but the manifest I have for her son William Earl Tingman dated Jun 1943 is for Buffalo Crossing NY and states his destination as mother, Mrs Eliz Tingman, 43 Carol/Canal St, Worcester.  She would have been 72 then so unless she married later I not think it is likely. 

May I ask if you came across any other Tingmans.  Another son Cecil Hamilton died Mass May 1970.

Thanks for all your help.

Cheers
Denise

[shellyesq]

The Massachusetts Death Index says that Cecil died 17 May 1970 in Worcester. 

There's a record from the Quebec Anglican Cathedral Holy Trinity Church for the birth of Cecil, born 26 Sep 1900 and baptized 15 Nov 1900, in case you don't have that. 

There seem to be a few Tingmans in Waltham, Massachusetts - names include Albert, Hilda, Ruth, Agnes, Esther, and Ethel.  Looks like they came from Sweden, though.