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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 November 08 11:39 GMT (UK) »
I didnt check Ros Davies Co Down website or www.familysearch.com for their marriages in South Africa I went for passenger lists to a fee payibg siteso your see a summary for free, but pay for detail.
I didn’t find any Blanche Hatton or the right James Adamson on the website www.findmypast.com/passengerList, but keep reading
suppose first names are ignored for some reason.  if Blanche is a second first name rather than first she may well be there. Women also often travelled without giving a first name   or the name is just transcribed wrongly for both of them
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Good luck but your query should be under Adamson or you will miss out on good responses, best of luck, Jim
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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 November 08 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately lots of possibilities for Hamilton middle names exist. Good to hear from you again.  Perhaps you can narrow this field.  I am not finding any of these families in the Donaghcloney area 1901 census and will check the Lurgan area later.  Did you see any sign of them in  Australia? 

These are from Emerald Ancestry, but I don't have church names and they didn't have all the birth records when I last checked.

John ADAMSON and Margaret Hamilton  had son John Oct 23, 1878 and the birth was registered at Banbridge.  That would probably be where a Waringstown birth would be recorded.  They also had James in 1870.  This looks very promising, but I can't find marriage records in Banbridge or Lurgan listings in Emerald Ancestry.  They have almost all the civil marriage records, so perhaps there is a spelling problem or she was a widow. 

I am also seeing a James Adamson marrying Margaret Jane Hamilton in 1860 with children  William 1870,Margaret 1872 and Martha Jane 1875.  Banbridge registration

Edward Adamson and Isabella Hamilton had Alexander in 1869, Isabella 1870, and Sarah 1878.

William Henry Adamson married Elizabeth Hamilton at DONAGHCLONEY Presby in 1863

Also Hamilton Adamson and Mary McSpadden (various spellings) m 1868 having Elizabeth Ann 1870, William John 1871, Emily Jane 1874,  Joseph Henry 1874 (twins), and Anna Caroline 1876  Lurgan registration for kids, but marriage is Banbridge registration

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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 November 08 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi there....

Has Anyone come across an "Agnes Harwood" thru their search? She married a Daniel Bruce 3 Apr1899 at Berry Street Presbyterian Church in Belfast...had at least 1 daughter I am aware of Catherine b. 14Feb1900.

All the best
Wendy
Barrie/Barry-Forfar
Broun/Brown-Kirriemuir, Forfar, Angus
Carr-Belfast
Close -Belfast, Antrim and Down, Mageraghall; Ontario, Canada 
Crowe- Belfast
Gardiner/Gardner-Belfast, Scotland
Hennion- USA
Hedley- Belfast
Lawlor-Belfast, Down: Ontario, Canada
McPherson-Esquising, Ontario
McKernan-Australia
Ramsay-Kirriemuir,Scotland
Thompson-Derry; Ontario-Canada
Walker- Kirriemuir,Forfar,Dundee Scotland
Wilkinson-Belfast

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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 November 08 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Wendy, I had seen a www.familysearch.com item that might interest you
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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 November 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi there...

Yes I had thot that my be her too....I'll have to get the marriage checked to verify the father....thanks so much

Wendy
Barrie/Barry-Forfar
Broun/Brown-Kirriemuir, Forfar, Angus
Carr-Belfast
Close -Belfast, Antrim and Down, Mageraghall; Ontario, Canada 
Crowe- Belfast
Gardiner/Gardner-Belfast, Scotland
Hennion- USA
Hedley- Belfast
Lawlor-Belfast, Down: Ontario, Canada
McPherson-Esquising, Ontario
McKernan-Australia
Ramsay-Kirriemuir,Scotland
Thompson-Derry; Ontario-Canada
Walker- Kirriemuir,Forfar,Dundee Scotland
Wilkinson-Belfast

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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 November 08 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Sorry John we seem to be drifting away from your original enquiry, but hopefully it will lead backwards to you.

Wendy in 1912 , in proni.gov.uk/UlsterCovenant is a sgning Harwood, George 31 St Leonard Street  Belfast: East Pottinger Orange Hall Mountpottinger.
In a street directory for 1917, which I cant access tonight there is an entry in for a George Harwood [the website also has other herwood]  Use google to find Mary Lennon'belfast street directories  1907

KatC, you are definitely getting there, I assume the access to Records listed by Ros Davies as diffficult ie Listed references
Waringstown Church of Ireland - Holy Trinity  Records  parish registers date from 1697 (in local custody); graveyard near the bridge; gravestone inscriptions UHF Vol 19 ; oldest gravestone 1707; RD offers a gravestone look-up
Waringstown Presbyterian Church in Tullyherron townland   Records from 1862; etc etcRD offers a gravestone look-up or pay per view surname search for gravestones on www.irishgenealogy.ie
Ballynabragget Seceding Presbyterian Church  called Donaghcloney Presbyterian.   Records from 1798; burials from 1817; RD offers a gravestone look-up or pay per view gravestones on www.irishgenealogy.ie
 
I became muddled and decided if I put everything seen together would it show more lines to follow KatC  list of sorted what we have as follows is
Adamson first generation with spaces left
Henry Adamson and Mary Spencer who were married in 1790 in County Down. Their son, James Adamson was baptised at the Donacloney Presbyterian Church in 1807. I believe he would have had other siblings,but do not know for sure who they were. According the Freeholders List, Henry Adamson was in residence in Tullyrain in 1810, 1824, and 1827. The Ballynabragget Adamsons were related. My Adamsons were probably from Tullyrain and Ballylough.  Marlynn says she is descended from Annie Pennington,born in County Down about 1810. …. It is my understanding that the Penningtons came from the Waringstown area and some of them were clock makers.
If anyone is connected, or has information on the Adamson/Pennington families, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Kind regards, Marlynn Johnson Ocean City, NJ ie Marlynn Johnson" she gives her email address archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NIR-DOWN/2005-09/1126881537
next generation
James Adamson son of Henry Adamson and Mary Spencer baptised at the Donacloney Presbyterian Church in 1807 from Marlynn above

from Emerald ancestors see KatC above
she brings in the Adamson marrying Hamiltons, one of which surely is the reason that John Hamilton Adamson born about 1879  acquired the Hamilton second name , but which one ?!  just to recap
James Adamson marrying Margaret Jane Hamilton in 1860
 with children  William 1870,Margaret 1872 and Martha Jane 1875.  Banbridge registration
John Adamson and Margaret Hamilton
had James in 1870
had son John Oct 23, 1878 and the birth was registered at Banbridge.  That would probably be where a Waringstown birth would be recorded.
Edward Adamson and Isabella Hamilton
had Alexander in 1869, Isabella 1870, and Sarah 1878.
William Henry Adamson married Elizabeth Hamilton at Donaghcloney Presby in 1863Hamilton Adamson and Mary McSpadden (various spellings) m 1868
having Elizabeth Ann 1870, William John 1871, Emily Jane 1874,  Joseph Henry 1874 (twins), and Anna Caroline 1876  Lurgan registration for kids, but marriage is Banbridge registration
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and those Adamsons listed in Griffiths
 I hope I am not missing anyone out. Jim

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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 November 08 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Walter I went back to Find my past migration section and reread Katz note ie another correspondent  had said The Adamson family once ran the Post Office in Waringstown. It passed into the hands of the Harwood family (my mother's people), when Elizabeth Moore married William John Harwood. So he may have started to travel much earlier than his marriage year! Does anyone have the date of Elizabeth Moore marring William John Harwood.
They are too many travelling east from Uk to list here but I think it is something that is worth your time to check out.    Blanche may have already been to England as passunger or crew and was travelling back and had a break in South Africa

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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 15 November 08 04:46 GMT (UK) »
There are location mistakes in your sources. 

Martha and Thomas Adamson are from  Ballydougan families.  Martha is the grandaughter of James b.1750 and m. Martha, and dau. of Robert.  Thomas is son of William George (Big George). There is also a John m. Betty Ann and  brother of Robert in the town.   They are not closely related to Harwoods.  James who m. Mary Porter and lived in  Ballydougan was probably also born in the 1810's and thought to be related somehow. 

George m. Mary Sturgeon  also lived in Ballydougan and went to the same church as the above.  I don't know his father's name, but doubt he is closely related to Harwoods.

However, John b. 1820 who married Agnes Seawright b. 1828 had father John, a farmer, and lived in Ballynabragget according to his marriage record.  Her parents were George Seawright and Ann Bingham. 

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Re: Harwood, Waringstown
« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 November 08 09:56 GMT (UK) »
There is a lot of wonderful information here, and I am trying to connect all the dots in order to come back with something which adds further value, so please pardon my silence while I try to sort out my connections.

One of the things holding me up is that I would prefer to have all my notes and family tree automated and do it once.  The challenge is which system to pick - at this stage I have decided that www.myheritage.com is the most appealing for me.

Does anyone have any other advice or experience of the best web-based system, or experience in the use of www.myheritage.com?

Thanks, Walter Adamson
Melbourne, Australia
Researching Adamson, Harwood, from Waringstown, County Down, Northern Ireland.
In particular any information about John Hamilton Adamson born about 1879, later emigrated to Australia.