Anyone with Irish roots any time frame

[*sparkle*]

I have similar problems. My Lawler/Lollar/Lawlor family came over to SW Scotland between 1865 and 1870.

My g.g. granny is Julia Lawler b. abt 1854 just 'Ireland'
Her sister is Catherine Lawler b. abt 1848 Kildare, Ireland

Their Father is Michael Lawler, d by 1871 and an ag. lab from Julia's marriage certificate.

However their mother was Catherin Bonn/Burns/Byrne b abt 1821 Carlow, Ireland

Theres also a grandson called Robert, b 1865 Kildare, Ireland.... I suspect but I'm not 100% sure who his mother is...

No parishes, just counties.... and so now I'm stuck.
There seems to be a similar family on igi in Athy, Kildare, but I can't be sure. Then its just a dead end....

I suppose I should be grateful for the census records we do have as without them I definitely would not have got this far...

Tx

[digital1]

So I have CHRISTOPHER McGURN born c1814 Leitrim married to MARY GORMLY born c1820 Roscommon. They are both on the 1841 census so obviously came to Liverpool before the potato famine.

Did find out from Christophers sister (in 1841/1851 census records) marriage in 1851 that their fathers name was PHILIP.

So the question are:
1. How do I find out which Townland/Parish they came from?
2. Were they of different religions?
3. Two different Irish Counties so how did they meet and then marry?

Names Christopher and Philip seem to be Protestant names (Catholics usually have Cornelius and Patrick) plus family folklore is that they came over because of being the black sheep of the family (although this was thought to refer to work and not religion)

Biggest problem I can see is the surname. How would it have been spelt in Ireland. I know from certificates I have of their children plus two entries on census records that the name has been spelt McGarvey, McGorrin, McGwidle just to name three variants.

Jean, I have a similar problem - a Leitrim/Sligo marriage.  First of all, try this link for surname variations in Leitrim/Roscommon. http://leitrim.brsgenealogy.com/surnames.php
I also have a link showing surname name density per county in this part of Ireland - PM me if you would find this helpful.

Secondly, Leitrim was and still does have a tiny population and there was lots of interaction between there and Roscommon.  Don't give up hope.  Just goes to show that by sharing info, some of these intractable problems become solveable.

[stevenson]

If that odd Irish rellie is giving you the round a round,get it off you chest,put them here.......

And hopefully someone might find a link for some of us...it might be by some strange chance......the same one as someone else


Steve

[forthefamily]

Bradley/Devlin/Mcbride/Murphy

I had a lucky break. My mum's whole family went to the US in 1923 and I found the  passenger list that gave my Grandfather's place of birth as Buncrana which is in Donegal. So for ages I thought that was where he was from......but not really  I knew who his parents were from his death certificate. So I did a search on IGI. I couldn't find his christening but then I really didn't expect to as he was Catholic. However, I did find a sibling. I ordered the sibling's birth cert and he was born in Meenamullaghan, Donegal. Meenamullaghan is about 4 or 5 miles from Buncrana as the crow flies.. Now I'm stuck again 

Bonner/Toner/McGowan/McElwee 

Just by chance I discovered a tree on Ancestry that had my dad's brother on it... So I contacted the tree owner and lo and behold it was a cousin that I didn't know existed. She knew about me though. Anyway she had her older sister contact me and her sister gave me the names of my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother...she like me didn't know too much about our family. She did know that our GGM was from Kirkston and that our GGF was from a townland farther north. So armed with that information I went googling to see where this place was  I found a book about the Letterkenny area that someone had published years ago. It had census records and some other info that was quite interesting and I did see my GGM's family there in Kirkston...the next generation. Then I found a website dedicated to Donegal genealogy that is maintained by Linet. She was researching the area I was interested in and I found my great grandparents through some baptismal records that she had posted. They lived in Gortnacorrib, Donegal and had three children. Bit by bit. Then out of the blue I got contacted by a loverly gentleman who was researching the clergy in the Letterkenny area. He had seen a post of mine and recognized the names I was looking for and he faxed me a three page obituary from a Derry newspaper of one of my relatives. It was'nt competely legible but another RCer kindly emailed the same obit so that I could enlarge it. My relative was a local parish priest but the funeral was attended by well over 500 people from all over Ireland. Not only did it list all the attendees and parishioners there but it listed all the immediate family members attending the funeral and their relationship to the deceased and better yet where they were from in Ireland. What a goldmine. There was my GGM with her children and all the cousins and uncles and aunts. Now I'm stuck again 

mab

[Christopher]

Hello Steve,

Are you still keeping your hard copy records on rolls of wallpaper or have you entered the technological age and commenced keeping records on CDs? If it's the former you'd better head to the wallpaper shop as there are loads of people with Irish roots dating from 2008 backwards.

Christopher 

[wini]

Me Too.
GG Grandfather Samuel Reid all  documents after he arrived in Scotland state born in Ireland no county. Every Census from1851 onwards. Marriage Certificate,Death Certificate all just Ireland.
Parents John Reid and Jane McNeice.
I have got absolutely nowhere. I even used a professional  searcher, who came up with a marriage certificate for John and Jane but it wasn't the right John and Jane but she sent the certificate to me anyway as I had paid for it.
SO, Samuel Reid is on the back burner for now.

wini

[Christopher]

The Census ... "Ireland" thread contains a few tips ...  www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=311832.new;topicseen#new

[tinav40]

Rumour has it but have never found any Irish rellies yet.
My gran always said we were Irish. Does my red hair count ?
Any Gubbins' out there.
Tina

[XPhile2868]

I have a few branches from Ireland. Most of my Irish ancestors came straight to Preston, Lancashire -

MCKENNA - My mothers maiden name, we have no idea where our McKenna ancestors came from within Ireland. The first McKenna to come to England was Robert, who settled in Liverpool. His son James, my great great great grandfather, moved to Leyland, Lancashire.

CALLAGHAN - My matenal great great grandmother, Mary Ann Callaghan, was born in Dublin in 1863. Her family came to Preston, but we know very little. Her father could have been an Andrew or a James or had both names and came from Dublin probably. Her mother was called Mary Alice, as far as I know, and probably came from County Longford.

SCOWCROFT - My 4x great grandfather (grandfather of the man who married Mary Ann Callaghan - Mary herself was the mother-in-law of James McKenna's grandson) John Scowcroft was supposedly born in Ireland c1811, and came to Preston. There is a theory that his father was an English soldier, and his mother may have been Irish.

MURRAY - My 5x great grandparents James and Bridget Ellen Murray were both born in Meath in 1804 and 1814 respectively. They had quite a few children and moved to Preston, Lancashire. My 4x great grandmother was their daughter Bridget. James and Bridget are buried in the local Catholic church, just a few hundred metres from where I live, and I went to see their grave when I first found out.

BROWN and NICHOLSON - My 4x great grandmother Ann Brown was living in Preston when she married Edward Nicholson. Ann was from Tipperary and Edward was from Westport, Mayo. Little is known about them before their marriage, although I do know that Edwards father was a Patrick, who was born c1791 in Westport.


Stephen