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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:18 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't even know where to start. And I wonder if there is enough room:

Connolly/Nicholson
William Connolly (mother's maiden name McGuire) moved to Scotland in the 1860s and married Sarah Nicholson (mother's maiden name Broffet), also from Ireland. I would assume they were both from the north, but really don't know for sure. They had two children and then moved to the US.

Murphy/Moore
I have baptismal records for my gg grandfather Patrick Murphy from Ballon, Co Carlow. the priest could not find the marriage of his parents though, Michael Murphy and Ann Kealy. That could mean anything or nothing, though, as they were married some time in the 1820s. The whole family (parents and 6 sons) came to the US in the 1840s. Patrick married Margaret Moore (his second wife, my gg grandmother) in Cohoes, NY. Margaret was born in Ireland but I have no idea where.

Martin
My ggg grandparents, Bernard Martin and Margaret Healey, were both from Ireland and married in Liverpool. According to the 1851 census, Bernard was from Co Meath and Margaret from Dublin. They married in England, had a daughter, and then came to America in 1852, just before my gg grandmother was born.

McClusky/Davey
This one is very confusing. I know my gg grandmother Mary Davey was born in Mayo, her father in Sligo, and were connected with Curry. Mary and her family came to the US in the 1840s and settled in Louisville, NY, near the Canadian boarder. My gg grandfather Timothy McClusk(e)y supposedly came to Canada as a young boy/man by himself and then down to Louisville, and was supposedly from Curry, Co Sligo, but in attempting some research, I don't think that is true. It is on his death cert, but I think it was presumed because his wife was from there, or a story/rumor that started. So who knows what is real there.

And that is just my dad's side. I have some on my mom's side that I haven't a clue on either. Hayes and McLeans from Wexford supposedly, Scott from Galway, and throw in a Finnell from who knows where. They all seem to have left Ireland about the same time frame, late 1840s, except my Connollys. I think that's it.  :-\

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA

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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:44 BST (UK) »
Bless your heart, Claire.  :)
 Thank you for looking.
 I did see that Anne Boyle before and discarded that listing  as unlikely, as she is always referred to as 'Annie Maria' on censuses and her marriage certificate (Manchester St Mary's,  (the hidden Gem)) and also she would have been much younger when she married, if that is my Annie.

 On the 1971 census her age is 8. too.  Annie Maria  told of her voyage to England as being very scary  and being tossed about on the ship, and seeing whirlpools,  and fearing they would all drown,  so I think she must have arrive shortly before this census. She was old enough to have remembered such things , unless she was relating  her parent's memories?)


She is on the 1881 census as being 18, with some other Boyles , lodgers, from Leitrim.( Her father deceased. 1874 )  Lodgers James Boyle M (  where is the wife?) age 72 cattle salesman, and Thomas Boyle un age 18  Hog salesman. all say born Ireland.

She married Thomas Boyle, Jan 8 1883, his  age given as 22( father also Thomas Boyle. catttle dealer and, it seems, a witness at the marriage )
Annie maria gave her age as 21.

On the 1891 census both Thomas and Annie Maria gave their ages age 29

On the 1901 census At last we find the counties! Annie Maria b. Tyrone, Thomas who she married , from Leitrim. The vague  family story was they all came from Leitrim so the Tyrone Co  part was a surprise.  :)

They had four children. Annie Maria died young though,  Mitral Stenosis) 21st Nov 1908. One of her daughters  Margaret,  who present at the death gave her age as 41. ( I thought maybe a mistake, a seven written like a one?)

She is buried, I found out from a kind soul who looked it up for me, at St Joseph's cemetery, St Patrick's section, in a shared grave.  Her age, on their records, given as 42.  

Other names mentioned were, a Mary Duffy was a witness to the marriage, and the family  had a Robert Knox (B Ireland) un b about 1844,   as a lodger for at least 10 years on the  1871 and  1881 census


 Somewhere, out there in Ireland( Tyrone? )  is a Catholic  church with the record of my Annie Maria Boyle.  

Then there are my Shaughnessy's ........ :-))

Boyle, Co. Leitrim  Boyle, Co. Tyrone, Shaughnessy, Co. Limerick, and  Manchester, UK.  Pope, Cheshire. Chadwick, Speke, Lancs.  Frankish, Hunmanby, Yorks.  Brindley, Audley, Staffs and  Middlesex.

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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 00:29 BST (UK) »
Rumour has it but have never found any Irish rellies yet.
My gran always said we were Irish. Does my red hair count ? ;D
Any Gubbins' out there.
Tina

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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 00:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Tina -- Just came across your reply regarding Irish roots and wanted to let you know there are quite a number of Gubbins family members with roots in Ireland......we have a genealogy group at yahoo.com known as the Gubbins Group.  If you are interested, please feel free to join us there.
Deborah


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« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 09:12 BST (UK) »
Gubbins? My ancestors had a house called Ballynanty House in Co Limerick just outside Bruff and it was taken over by the Gubbins family around 1846.
Although I don't have Gubbins in my tree, I would like to join the group. It may throw up some new leads for me.

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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 09:35 BST (UK) »
Often the clues to an Irish location are in the country the family moved to and it's a matter of checking all possible sources to get any details before you start looking for a family in Ireland

Aghadowey, just curious (or desperate!) to know how the destination country gives us a clue to the Irish location our ancestors came from?

All of my Irish ancestors (Hegarty, Flaherty, Kelly, Savage, Reynolds) came from 'Ireland' to settle in Liverpool, UK.  Only one of ancestors, a Lappin, gave their county of origin.  :(
BRUCE; MATHER; MCKILLOP;BALMAIN;ALYSON (Perth,Scotland);BLAIR:SCOTT;FLEMING,PATERSON; SEMPLE (Midlothian, Scotland)
CRANE; PLEAVIN; SUMNER;DUTTON Cheshire; HEWITT (Cheshire & Liverpool);
FLAHERTY;HEGARTY; KELLY; LAPPIN; MCDONALD SAVAGE; REYNOLDS (Ireland & Liverpool);
MCVEY; MELLOR in Liverpool PRICE(Denbighshire & Liverpool);
BOLITHO;CHAMPERNOWNE;GODOLPHIN;HODGE;TREBILCOCK;TREVILER;WEBB;    TREWARTHA:UREN (Cornwall)



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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 09:58 BST (UK) »
In some countries birth, marriage and death certificates give birthplaces, names of parents, etc. For example, if a John Kelly from 'Ireland' goes to America and then marries in New York City the marriage certificate will list the names of both parents. His death certificate will list birthplace and parents' names (if known by informant).
Other documents might also give details. A few years ago I wrote a letter to Bronx Police Department asking for information based only on a name, approx age and a photograph of person in uniform showing badge number. They sent me pages of information from his file including pension record which gave marriage information, death of his widow, etc.
Gravestones sometimes have a place mentioned. People give their houses names of their place of origin sometimes. Local histories often give information on early settlers. Obituaries might mention when a person arrived from Ireland and where they came from there. Cemetery records might list clues.
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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 10:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the explanation, Aghadowey  :)
BRUCE; MATHER; MCKILLOP;BALMAIN;ALYSON (Perth,Scotland);BLAIR:SCOTT;FLEMING,PATERSON; SEMPLE (Midlothian, Scotland)
CRANE; PLEAVIN; SUMNER;DUTTON Cheshire; HEWITT (Cheshire & Liverpool);
FLAHERTY;HEGARTY; KELLY; LAPPIN; MCDONALD SAVAGE; REYNOLDS (Ireland & Liverpool);
MCVEY; MELLOR in Liverpool PRICE(Denbighshire & Liverpool);
BOLITHO;CHAMPERNOWNE;GODOLPHIN;HODGE;TREBILCOCK;TREVILER;WEBB;    TREWARTHA:UREN (Cornwall)



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Re: Anyone with Irish roots any time frame
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 11:20 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

We are all just clutching at straws sometimes with our Irish research. Sometimes with little to go on you never know who might just have that connection we are looking for. This has worked well for me in the past.

My Brickwalls;

County Down;

Anne DEAN
 born c. 1837,
 parents Patrick
Dean and Elizabeth FITZPATRICK, first married to Patrick NOLAN ( not sure whether this is in Ire. or N.Z. as she remarries there 1873)


MOLONEY/COSTELLO  James and An/Nancy, daughter Ann born 1842 said she was born Derby, but cant find her/them on English censuses. Ann marries 1869 in Australia and then they heads to N.Z.

Also interested in MISKELLY's of Belfast

CUMMINS of Tinyriland,Carlow ( have some info on them)

God you've got to love them all :D

They made us what we are.

Trish
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