Anyone with Irish roots any time frame

[stevenson]

Hi all

I have been going through paper work this weekend and noticed lots of rellies start in England/Scotland or Wales go to Ireland then go back again..then back and back again. even to New York..Canada...Australia..India..Switzerland ...France......endless list..even St Kits

ANYONE with an Irish  roots please let me know....even if family lore say you are...as there is always some truth in them sayings.

Anything,,,might not help me..but might be that brick "pushed out " to help someone else.

anything from 2008 backwards..

Steve

[aghadowey]

Steve- what exactly are you looking for here?

[stevenson]

Anyone who is not sure Aghadowey.

Anyone who has """born in Ireland""""  many of us do...that odd rellie in the corner

lots give up when they see that.....we all have missing rellies...I have a few born in "Wales"....I gave up with that one.

There must be some way for us to link these people....everyone looking...might be able to find a common link....someway....however small...we need to try.

Don't you think.

if they were all in one place..like here...we might be able to find their families.

Steve

[aghadowey]

The key to finding information on Irish relatives is the location (civil parish if not the actual townland not just a county or 'Ireland') and their religion. Often the clues to an Irish location are in the country the family moved to and it's a matter of checking all possible sources to get any details before you start looking for a family in Ireland

[Jean McGurn]

The key to finding information on Irish relatives is the location (civil parish if not the actual townland not just a county or 'Ireland') and their religion.

I'm in that boat. For years I was told that Grandfather was born in Ireland. Turned out HE was born in Liverpool but it was HIS father who had been born in Ireland.

So I have CHRISTOPHER McGURN born c1814 Leitrim married to MARY GORMLY born c1820 Roscommon. They are both on the 1841 census so obviously came to Liverpool before the potato famine.

Did find out from Christophers sister (in 1841/1851 census records) marriage in 1851 that their fathers name was PHILIP.

So the question are:
1. How do I find out which Townland/Parish they came from?
2. Were they of different religions?
3. Two different Irish Counties so how did they meet and then marry?

Names Christopher and Philip seem to be Protestant names (Catholics usually have Cornelius and Patrick) plus family folklore is that they came over because of being the black sheep of the family (although this was thought to refer to work and not religion)

Biggest problem I can see is the surname. How would it have been spelt in Ireland. I know from certificates I have of their children plus two entries on census records that the name has been spelt McGarvey, McGorrin, McGwidle just to name three variants.

Still I suppose having this brickwall keeps me out of mischief 

Jean

[aghadowey]

Jean, first of all Co. Leitrim and Co. Roscommon are adjoining so they may not have lived too far from each other in Ireland. Are you sure they actually married in Ireland? It wouldn't hurt to check English marriage registers to see if they came to England separately and married there.

Have seen Christopher and Philip used for Catholic children so those names don't really mean your family weren't Catholic.

Unfortunately English records usually just say 'Ireland' but it would be a good idea to search for everyone in the family in census records just in case there's any clues.

[Oramazda]

I would assume you've tried Cyndi. Here's the link anyway. However, I have to say I'm in the same boat with my French, Jelly and Herdman links all to Cork but about the famine time not a lot was recorded.
http://www.cyndislist.com/ireland.htm

[Jean McGurn]

Are you sure they actually married in Ireland? It wouldn't hurt to check English marriage registers to see if they came to England separately and married there

Hadn't thought of that. Will give that a try at the weekend.

Their eldest son Charles on all census records, apart from just one, say's he was born Leitrim. The odd one back in the early days (think it was the '41 census) says Liverpool. If only the 1841 census gave more info.

The family were living in Liverpool and for 'where born' it had the letter I for the parents and Y for Charles. So I did wonder if Liverpool and spent ages checking the GRO index's too many Charles McG*** to send off for.

I had wondered about the religious side as some siblings married catholics whilst  most married into Cof E. It would also folklore 'black sheep of the family' as I think maybe in those days it was not the done thing to marry outside your religion. Little bit like it was in the late 20th century in some parts of Northern Ireland.

Jean



 

[Sparkle26]

Hi

My Paternal Grandparents came from Ireland

My nan came from Ballymena her maiden name was Scullion born 1922 i've got some info on her parents and further back but what has got me stumped is my Paternal Grandfather. 

I don't have anything on him his name was John Michael Connell i've been told he was born in dublin but don't know for sure i can't even find a marriage between him and my nan

He left my nan and the kids when they where young i've also been told that he could have had links to the IRA but again no facts just a rumour he's also meant to have had a drinking problem but again just a rumour

I've put this side of the family on a back burner for the mo otherwise i would be bald from all the hair pulling 

Claire